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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5450862" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>I gotta say, don't you make a big deal out of how much effort you put into converting PF APs over to 4e? (rhetorical question there)</p><p></p><p>If it doesn't make any difference to you, then clearly the FAR wiser course of action would be to save all that effort and just play the, well crafted, Pathfinder game.</p><p></p><p>But, clearly, your ability to enjoy some well crafted games is not equal to your ability to enjoy other well crafted games. </p><p></p><p>And neither is mine. 4E is a well crafted game. But I don't really enjoy it because it is not crafted to my taste. Nothing wrong with that. But your statement is significantly biased in favor of your own view and gives you credit for being above us simple opinionated folk.</p><p></p><p>It is clear that a change on that scale already HAS affected you.</p><p></p><p>It's called people. </p><p>Is it easy to throw stones for being emotionally invested in a game based hobby? Absolutely. </p><p></p><p>But, these days the hottest and most numerous threads of contention are in the 4E forums. Every change WotC has made lately has had the various pro-4e factions at each other's throats. Which isn't to call them any better or worse or anything. It is just to note that people are people.</p><p></p><p>4E fans didn't accept 4E because they were the open-minded accepting fans who didn't care. They embraced 4E because it fit their tastes. It is easy to draw a line between 4E fans and non-4E-fans and label that line, "people who do/don't accept change". But the label is wrong. The correct label is simply, "people for whom 4E fits or doesn't fit their tastes".</p><p></p><p>But neither group is particularly accepting of change for change's sake. Look in the 4E forums and look in the Pazio playtest forums. You will see the same stuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5450862, member: 957"] I gotta say, don't you make a big deal out of how much effort you put into converting PF APs over to 4e? (rhetorical question there) If it doesn't make any difference to you, then clearly the FAR wiser course of action would be to save all that effort and just play the, well crafted, Pathfinder game. But, clearly, your ability to enjoy some well crafted games is not equal to your ability to enjoy other well crafted games. And neither is mine. 4E is a well crafted game. But I don't really enjoy it because it is not crafted to my taste. Nothing wrong with that. But your statement is significantly biased in favor of your own view and gives you credit for being above us simple opinionated folk. It is clear that a change on that scale already HAS affected you. It's called people. Is it easy to throw stones for being emotionally invested in a game based hobby? Absolutely. But, these days the hottest and most numerous threads of contention are in the 4E forums. Every change WotC has made lately has had the various pro-4e factions at each other's throats. Which isn't to call them any better or worse or anything. It is just to note that people are people. 4E fans didn't accept 4E because they were the open-minded accepting fans who didn't care. They embraced 4E because it fit their tastes. It is easy to draw a line between 4E fans and non-4E-fans and label that line, "people who do/don't accept change". But the label is wrong. The correct label is simply, "people for whom 4E fits or doesn't fit their tastes". But neither group is particularly accepting of change for change's sake. Look in the 4E forums and look in the Pazio playtest forums. You will see the same stuff. [/QUOTE]
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