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A reason why 4E is not as popular as it could have been
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<blockquote data-quote="Dannager" data-source="post: 5453869" data-attributes="member: 73683"><p>This really isn't tough, guys.</p><p></p><p>Imagine a man named Bob. Bob likes his pies. Pies are an important part of Bob's life. One day, Bob notices a new pie listed on his favorite pie restaurant's menu: Boston Cream Pie. Bob has never had this pie before, and his curiosity compels him to order one.</p><p></p><p>When Bob is served his Boston Cream Pie, he is outraged. "This isn't pie!" he bellows, "It's missing some of the things I like about pies! It's way too much like a cake to be a real pie! It just doesn't <em>feel</em> like pie to me."</p><p></p><p>Bob's view of pies, as a concept, is very narrow. He has created a personal definition of what a pie is, and anything that falls outside that definition is not a pie as far as he is concerned. His definition of pie-hood is not open to revision; no matter how many thoroughly enjoyable desert pastries he samples, he will not expand his personal conception of the essential nature of a pie.</p><p></p><p>I appreciate your passionate defense of your own mindset, but let's not overextend ourselves, hmm? The creation of a rigid personal definition for what D&D is and isn't does not strike me as flexible.</p><p></p><p>It would be nice if we could put this particular flavor of gripe to bed. It's a silly one to begin with, and very nearly pointless when it comes to any sort of discussion ("I don't like 4e, it doesn't feel like D&D to me," doesn't explain your position any better than simply saying, "I don't like 4e," and tends to confuse things, because you're the only person who knows what your own personal definition of D&D looks like).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannager, post: 5453869, member: 73683"] This really isn't tough, guys. Imagine a man named Bob. Bob likes his pies. Pies are an important part of Bob's life. One day, Bob notices a new pie listed on his favorite pie restaurant's menu: Boston Cream Pie. Bob has never had this pie before, and his curiosity compels him to order one. When Bob is served his Boston Cream Pie, he is outraged. "This isn't pie!" he bellows, "It's missing some of the things I like about pies! It's way too much like a cake to be a real pie! It just doesn't [I]feel[/I] like pie to me." Bob's view of pies, as a concept, is very narrow. He has created a personal definition of what a pie is, and anything that falls outside that definition is not a pie as far as he is concerned. His definition of pie-hood is not open to revision; no matter how many thoroughly enjoyable desert pastries he samples, he will not expand his personal conception of the essential nature of a pie. I appreciate your passionate defense of your own mindset, but let's not overextend ourselves, hmm? The creation of a rigid personal definition for what D&D is and isn't does not strike me as flexible. It would be nice if we could put this particular flavor of gripe to bed. It's a silly one to begin with, and very nearly pointless when it comes to any sort of discussion ("I don't like 4e, it doesn't feel like D&D to me," doesn't explain your position any better than simply saying, "I don't like 4e," and tends to confuse things, because you're the only person who knows what your own personal definition of D&D looks like). [/QUOTE]
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