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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5453874" data-attributes="member: 19675">We're perfectly capable of expressing every little thing we don't like about 4Ed.  Indeed, we've done so many times."It's not D&D to me" is usually just the last one in the litany.  A summation of how our dislikes make us feel about the game in general.To examine your analogy, you claim that Bob's claim that Boston Creme Pie "isn't pie" to him means he has a narrow definition of "pie."The problem is- to use a phrase from my profession- your conclusion assumes facts not in evidence.  You have no idea if Bob's tasted pies from 189 different cultures of the world or just the 5 previous pies from his favorite eatery.Likewise, dismissing someone's complaint of 4Ed "not being D&D" to them as "narrow minded" or "inflexible" (not to mention "silly" or "pointless") is similarly flawed- you have ZERO concept of their experiences in gaming.  Someone with my aforementioned experience - 100+ different systems, remember- might even take that as an insult or as a sign of ignorance, neither of which does your POV any favors.</blockquote>