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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5454091" data-attributes="member: 59082">I don't think Dannager's pie analogy has been adequately negated, btw. And no, AuldGrump, it doesn't matter that Boston Cream Pie isn't really pie (or was that entirely a non sequitur?); cut-and-paste in Blueberry or Key Lime and the analogy works the same. And I think Dannager accurately answered Pawsplay's reply - not to mention that what he is protesting against is not the reaction of people like the Bob in Pawsplay's analogy who don't say "I don't like this Boston Cream Pie therefore it is not Boston Cream Pie."As I see it, the point that Dannager is trying to make (afaict), and which I agree with, is that everyone is completely free to think and feel what they want about 4E (or pie, for that matter), but that there is a funny kind of psychology in holding to a view such as "4E isn't real D&D" or "4E isn't D&D to me." Why not just say "4E isn't my preferred form of D&D" or "I don't like how 4E does D&D"?To put it another way, why is there the need to negate 4E's status as a valid form of D&D? You don't lose anything by acknowledging that it is, in fact, D&D, but just not your preferred version. I mean, I get not liking it. It is my D&D of choice but I find it to be deeply flawed. I'm one of those seemingly rare birds that likes all forms of D&D, although prefers some to others (as the saying goes, all editions of D&D are equal, some more than others).Of course everyone is free to believe whatever they want to believe, and I'm not going to say that you have no right to believe that "4E is not real D&D to me." I also have the right to believe that Barack Obama is the Antichrist or that the government is trying to poison us through chem-trails or that homosexuality is a sin. The problem becomes in the impact it has on one's mentality and experience of life, and relationships with others. If you're on an online forum that is dedicated to all forms of D&D and recognizes all forms as valid, and you go around saying that one form is not real D&D then there are going to be consequences.</blockquote>

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