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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5454112" data-attributes="member: 19675">As both ByronD and I have pointed out, there is no neccessary correlation between like/dislike of 4Ed and being of the opnion that it doesn't feel like D&amp;D.&nbsp; We've been clear on this: I myself have stated IN THIS THREAD that I find 4Ed to be an enjoyable game to play.&nbsp; It still doesn't feel like D&amp;D to me.&nbsp; ByronD noted that even though he harbors some dislike of 2Ed, it still feels like D&amp;D to him.(And we both managed to do so without insulting, dismissive language.)There is also no real way to be more precise about &quot;feel&quot; because it is entirely subjective: the change of one element may disrupt that perception for one consumer while alterations of hundreds may not.&nbsp; In fact, the change of hundreds of elements may not make one feel that way while one particular change may.You see discussions of &quot;feel&quot;'all the time in product reviews, especiallmthings like cars.&nbsp; When a car reviewer says a particular model doesn't have the &quot;feel&quot; of a Ferrari (or Porsche, Fiat, Ford, etc.), it's pretty much understood that he is NOT negating the car's identity, but rather that something about the car is at perceptible variance with his expectations of what he expects from the badge.&nbsp; (And in fact, that may even be a positive- context matters).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5454112, member: 19675"] As both ByronD and I have pointed out, there is no neccessary correlation between like/dislike of 4Ed and being of the opnion that it doesn't feel like D&D. We've been clear on this: I myself have stated IN THIS THREAD that I find 4Ed to be an enjoyable game to play. It still doesn't feel like D&D to me. ByronD noted that even though he harbors some dislike of 2Ed, it still feels like D&D to him. (And we both managed to do so without insulting, dismissive language.) There is also no real way to be more precise about "feel" because it is entirely subjective: the change of one element may disrupt that perception for one consumer while alterations of hundreds may not. In fact, the change of hundreds of elements may not make one feel that way while one [I]particular[/I] change may. You see discussions of "feel"'all the time in product reviews, especiallmthings like cars. When a car reviewer says a particular model doesn't have the "feel" of a Ferrari (or Porsche, Fiat, Ford, etc.), it's pretty much understood that he is NOT negating the car's identity, but rather that something about the car is at perceptible variance with his expectations of what he expects from the badge. (And in fact, that may even be a positive- context matters). [/QUOTE]

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