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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 5454507" data-attributes="member: 29398">I do.But the edition I fight for is one most have never heard of unless they've either played in our games or read our website, so it really doesn't matter very much. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />If one says for whatever reason &quot;4th isn't D&amp;D&quot; then there's no point in continuing any discussion with the speaker, because like it or not (and note that I don't yet am defending it anyway) 4e *is* D&amp;D every bit as much as 3e, 2e, 1e, and all the other various e's; and if the speaker can not or will not realize this you're probably wasting your time.Why is this?&nbsp; Because there's a massive difference between the statement &quot;4e isn't D&amp;D&quot; (an objective statement and also an outright lie) and &quot;4e doesn't feel like D&amp;D&quot; (a subjective statement likely true from the speaker's point of view).From what I've seen/read of 4e it certainly doesn't look like D&amp;D to me, and I'm not interested in playing or running it.&nbsp; But I cannot deny that 4e has become part of the D&amp;D family and that there's lots of people who do like it for what it is.&nbsp; Lan-&quot;the black sheep of the family is still part of the family&quot;-efan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 5454507, member: 29398"] I do. But the edition I fight for is one most have never heard of unless they've either played in our games or read our website, so it really doesn't matter very much. :) If one says for whatever reason "4th isn't D&D" then there's no point in continuing any discussion with the speaker, because like it or not (and note that I don't yet am defending it anyway) 4e *is* D&D every bit as much as 3e, 2e, 1e, and all the other various e's; and if the speaker can not or will not realize this you're probably wasting your time. Why is this? Because there's a [B]massive[/B] difference between the statement "4e isn't D&D" (an objective statement and also an outright lie) and "4e doesn't feel like D&D" (a subjective statement likely true from the speaker's point of view). From what I've seen/read of 4e it certainly doesn't look like D&D to me, and I'm not interested in playing or running it. But I cannot deny that 4e has become part of the D&D family and that there's lots of people who do like it for what it is. Lan-"the black sheep of the family is still part of the family"-efan [/QUOTE]

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