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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5457125" data-attributes="member: 957">Actually, I don't think any other editions were &quot;simulationist&quot;.&nbsp; I think there was a steady, but slow growth in that general direction, but it never got anywhere close.&nbsp; A lot of other games shined a light on it and 3E learned from them and made an awesome quantum leap.&nbsp; (It doesn't &quot;feel&quot; like D&amp;D, and in this specific case that is why I love it.)As to the whole &quot;implications of magic&quot;, there is a concept called &quot;boundary conditions&quot;.&nbsp; Suffice it to say that every issue you have raised is trivially removed by a quality gaming group who wants to create a cool shared reality.&nbsp; And every issue you raised can be exploited to hell and back by either a bad group, or a good group that just wants to go that direction with it.&nbsp; I agree that the bad things can and do happen.&nbsp; If you want to insist that the great things that do happen, in fact can not happen, then that would simply be you defining yourself into a position based solely on ignorance.&nbsp; I'll leave it to you to accept or reject the reality of my game, because my game is going to ignore your opinion either way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5457125, member: 957"] Actually, I don't think any other editions were "simulationist". I think there was a steady, but slow growth in that general direction, but it never got anywhere close. A lot of other games shined a light on it and 3E learned from them and made an awesome quantum leap. (It doesn't "feel" like D&D, and in this specific case that is why I love it.) As to the whole "implications of magic", there is a concept called "boundary conditions". Suffice it to say that every issue you have raised is trivially removed by a quality gaming group who wants to create a cool shared reality. And every issue you raised can be exploited to hell and back by either a bad group, or a good group that just wants to go that direction with it. I agree that the bad things can and do happen. If you want to insist that the great things that do happen, in fact can not happen, then that would simply be you defining yourself into a position based solely on ignorance. I'll leave it to you to accept or reject the reality of my game, because my game is going to ignore your opinion either way. [/QUOTE]

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