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A reason why 4E is not as popular as it could have been
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<blockquote data-quote="Vyvyan Basterd" data-source="post: 5458030" data-attributes="member: 4892"><p>No. I express my opinions. You are the one reading (in)factual context into them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Pretty much my point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with you about the small difference between 1E and 2E. But watch out when you meet a 1E grognard with that attitude. I've sat through a lecture on the long list of changes that were made to the game between editions. I liked all of the changes as they reflected the way I was playing the game, that might have blurred my vision on them being actual changes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Rose-colored glasses. These same edition wars raged then as they do now. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"Alot" is subjective, at best.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I remember completely different comments coming from Erik Mona at the time. Obviously over two years time he and the others at Paizo have time to inspect the game and make commetary on the likes and dislikes. But as a company they had a decision point that effected the health of their company. If you think they based the health of their company on the speculation that message-board pundits disliked what 4E might be, you're crazy. They made the decison based on the GSL issues. If the GSL had been ironed out in time I suspect they would have gone down the 4E path and kept the momentum going. I never said this was 4E's ONLY problem, but the change in the gaming landscape sure seems like the major factor to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Popularity is not subjective. A game system cannot be popular to one person and not popular to another. Popularity is based, in game system terms, on frequency of use. The most popular game is the most played game. And, if we are to believe what we read online, that is still 4E. It could have been more popular at this point is factors surrounding it were different.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is my premise, glad to see you agree with me. Sorry I wasn't clear enough for you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can agree that is a factor, but I still do not believe it is the biggest one amongst casual gamers. And I still believe casual gamers make up the greatest population of overall gamers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vyvyan Basterd, post: 5458030, member: 4892"] No. I express my opinions. You are the one reading (in)factual context into them. Pretty much my point. I agree with you about the small difference between 1E and 2E. But watch out when you meet a 1E grognard with that attitude. I've sat through a lecture on the long list of changes that were made to the game between editions. I liked all of the changes as they reflected the way I was playing the game, that might have blurred my vision on them being actual changes. Rose-colored glasses. These same edition wars raged then as they do now. "Alot" is subjective, at best. I remember completely different comments coming from Erik Mona at the time. Obviously over two years time he and the others at Paizo have time to inspect the game and make commetary on the likes and dislikes. But as a company they had a decision point that effected the health of their company. If you think they based the health of their company on the speculation that message-board pundits disliked what 4E might be, you're crazy. They made the decison based on the GSL issues. If the GSL had been ironed out in time I suspect they would have gone down the 4E path and kept the momentum going. I never said this was 4E's ONLY problem, but the change in the gaming landscape sure seems like the major factor to me. Popularity is not subjective. A game system cannot be popular to one person and not popular to another. Popularity is based, in game system terms, on frequency of use. The most popular game is the most played game. And, if we are to believe what we read online, that is still 4E. It could have been more popular at this point is factors surrounding it were different. Which is my premise, glad to see you agree with me. Sorry I wasn't clear enough for you. I can agree that is a factor, but I still do not believe it is the biggest one amongst casual gamers. And I still believe casual gamers make up the greatest population of overall gamers. [/QUOTE]
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