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A reason why 4E is not as popular as it could have been
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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5460434" data-attributes="member: 54877"><p>Food again! Naw, that cake analogy is off, too. 4E is a complete meal at a fine establishment that doesn't offer you many choices. You can have the ribeye or the salmon or the chicken Florentine, and it will come with appropriate sides. If you absolutely must substitute the salmon's rice pilaf side for your ribeye, you can. But the chef will grumble, and the waiter will give you a gimlet stare for 3 seconds. Depending on your GM, you may be able to add other such meals, but it will always be a limited set. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p>Depending on the GM, 3E is anything from a hole in the wall buffet place with a 70 health rating, to this wonderful Greek place I used to frequent in Connecticut. They have pizza, pasta, several steak, 33 kinds of fish, and yes, even chicken Florentine. They've got a wine cellar, and three different ways to get it with your meal, including a single glass in a package. Several things are pretty good. A few are truly excellent (well, at the Greek place, not so much the nameless buffet place). But you know, the sphaghetti comes in a giant bowl, and it is impressive, but it really isn't very good. For the population as a whole, you can go there and everyone find something they like. But each person will only like a small subset of the menu. </p><p> </p><p>That doesn't mean that the 4E fine establishment is going to be a better alternative for you. It does mean that for many of the things that people want, there will be a better alternative than the 3E place. Of course, one has to take into account what everyone in the group wants, and convenience, too. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 5460434, member: 54877"] Food again! Naw, that cake analogy is off, too. 4E is a complete meal at a fine establishment that doesn't offer you many choices. You can have the ribeye or the salmon or the chicken Florentine, and it will come with appropriate sides. If you absolutely must substitute the salmon's rice pilaf side for your ribeye, you can. But the chef will grumble, and the waiter will give you a gimlet stare for 3 seconds. Depending on your GM, you may be able to add other such meals, but it will always be a limited set. :D Depending on the GM, 3E is anything from a hole in the wall buffet place with a 70 health rating, to this wonderful Greek place I used to frequent in Connecticut. They have pizza, pasta, several steak, 33 kinds of fish, and yes, even chicken Florentine. They've got a wine cellar, and three different ways to get it with your meal, including a single glass in a package. Several things are pretty good. A few are truly excellent (well, at the Greek place, not so much the nameless buffet place). But you know, the sphaghetti comes in a giant bowl, and it is impressive, but it really isn't very good. For the population as a whole, you can go there and everyone find something they like. But each person will only like a small subset of the menu. That doesn't mean that the 4E fine establishment is going to be a better alternative for you. It does mean that for many of the things that people want, there will be a better alternative than the 3E place. Of course, one has to take into account what everyone in the group wants, and convenience, too. :D [/QUOTE]
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