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A reason why 4E is not as popular as it could have been
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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5463187" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>Is the dwarf back from an adventure and getting drunk in the bar? Maybe he should roll an Endurance skill check. </p><p> </p><p>Is the Rogue trying to convince the local Guild to let him freely operate in their city? Maybe he should role a Diplomacy skill check. </p><p> </p><p>Is the Wizard studying the notes in the town library, trying to find more hints about the demon that some cultists were trying to summon? Maybe he should role an Arcana or History skill check. </p><p> </p><p>Is the party trying to uncover proof that the local Duke is possessed by a Demon, and find a way to break that possession? Maybe they should undertake a skill challenge involving various checks to gather information (Endurance, Diplomacy, Streetwise) and various checks to find a way to break the curse (Arcana, History, Religion), and various checks in order to actually get to the Duke without being noticed (Athletics, Acrobatics, Stealth).</p><p> </p><p>Different tools for different purposes. There is place for both in the game. Having skill challenges doesn't remove the ability to use skills in the same way skills have always been used. All it does is provide an additional tool for when a DM wants to have a complex non-combat encounter and would like some guidance as to how much the PCs need to accomplish in order to be successful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5463187, member: 61155"] Is the dwarf back from an adventure and getting drunk in the bar? Maybe he should roll an Endurance skill check. Is the Rogue trying to convince the local Guild to let him freely operate in their city? Maybe he should role a Diplomacy skill check. Is the Wizard studying the notes in the town library, trying to find more hints about the demon that some cultists were trying to summon? Maybe he should role an Arcana or History skill check. Is the party trying to uncover proof that the local Duke is possessed by a Demon, and find a way to break that possession? Maybe they should undertake a skill challenge involving various checks to gather information (Endurance, Diplomacy, Streetwise) and various checks to find a way to break the curse (Arcana, History, Religion), and various checks in order to actually get to the Duke without being noticed (Athletics, Acrobatics, Stealth). Different tools for different purposes. There is place for both in the game. Having skill challenges doesn't remove the ability to use skills in the same way skills have always been used. All it does is provide an additional tool for when a DM wants to have a complex non-combat encounter and would like some guidance as to how much the PCs need to accomplish in order to be successful. [/QUOTE]
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