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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5464489" data-attributes="member: 87792">That depends.&nbsp; Technique will have improved as will knowledge of gates.&nbsp; And I have no objection to wizards using cantrips to assist them to lift gates.&nbsp;It's an unneded subsystem?&nbsp;All else being equal, yes.&nbsp;&nbsp;It depends.&nbsp; And if the wizard is using disintegration on a lock, he's got too many spells.&nbsp;I'm not sure it's either.&nbsp; I've <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/5464020-post605.html" target="_blank">called him out</a> directly <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/5462173-post526.html" target="_blank">twice</a> on this thread for making assertions about 4e that seem to have no grounding in the game - and have yet to see retractions.&nbsp;Given that just skimming the monster manual should have shown him that the claim about auto-levelling monsters was false, and his confusion between skill checks and skill challenges I can only conclude that he is neither familiar with the theory nor the practice.of 4e.&nbsp;&nbsp;You missed one huge one.&nbsp; They can find a way to play to their strengths.&nbsp; Thinking creatively to bring in your +14 thievery rather than your +10 bluff (as in the plant the evidence for a smear campaign) really changes the probabilities.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5464489, member: 87792"] That depends. Technique will have improved as will knowledge of gates. And I have no objection to wizards using cantrips to assist them to lift gates. It's an unneded subsystem? All else being equal, yes. It depends. And if the wizard is using disintegration on a lock, he's got too many spells. I'm not sure it's either. I've [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/5464020-post605.html]called him out[/url] directly [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/5462173-post526.html]twice[/url] on this thread for making assertions about 4e that seem to have no grounding in the game - and have yet to see retractions. Given that just skimming the monster manual should have shown him that the claim about auto-levelling monsters was false, and his confusion between skill checks and skill challenges I can only conclude that he is neither familiar with the theory nor the practice.of 4e. You missed one huge one. They can find a way to play to their strengths. Thinking creatively to bring in your +14 thievery rather than your +10 bluff (as in the plant the evidence for a smear campaign) really changes the probabilities. [/QUOTE]

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