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<blockquote data-quote="Vyvyan Basterd" data-source="post: 5466050" data-attributes="member: 4892">I think you're getting too caught up in the term &quot;level-appropriate.&quot; A good level 6 skill challenge will include tasks challenging to 6th-level PCs, not set the DCs of all tasks to those appropriate for 6th-level characters.Using the locks as an example. A standard heroic-tier lock (DC 20) is a hard level-appropriate challenge for 4th-9th level characters (assuming that any rogue worthy of being called such will have the thieves' tools that give him a +2 bonus to his check). This lock corresponds to a basic lock in 3E. As DM, you would not describe the lock in a similar skill challenge for 19th-level characters as a basic lock, you would need to choose a tougher lock. Just like you did as a 3E DM by choosing a harder lock as the PCs explored better protected areas in 3E.If you decide that the locks in the area of the 19th-level skill challenge are mundane, then the checks to get through them should not change. Instead the check becomes easy-moderate in difficulty. And at even higher levels the same mundane lock should not even be considered part of the skill challenge.The difficulty is not set by the DM any more than it was in previous editions. In 3E it was the choice of equipment (like the locks) or the choice of opponent (for opposed rolls) that set the DCs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vyvyan Basterd, post: 5466050, member: 4892"] I think you're getting too caught up in the term "level-appropriate." A [B]good[/B] level 6 skill challenge will include tasks challenging to 6th-level PCs, not set the DCs of all tasks to those appropriate for 6th-level characters. Using the locks as an example. A standard heroic-tier lock (DC 20) is a hard level-appropriate challenge for 4th-9th level characters (assuming that any rogue worthy of being called such will have the thieves' tools that give him a +2 bonus to his check). This lock corresponds to a basic lock in 3E. As DM, you would not describe the lock in a similar skill challenge for 19th-level characters as a basic lock, you would need to choose a tougher lock. Just like you did as a 3E DM by choosing a harder lock as the PCs explored better protected areas in 3E. If you decide that the locks in the area of the 19th-level skill challenge are mundane, then the checks to get through them should not change. Instead the check becomes easy-moderate in difficulty. And at even higher levels the same mundane lock should not even be considered part of the skill challenge. The difficulty is not set by the DM any more than it was in previous editions. In 3E it was the choice of equipment (like the locks) or the choice of opponent (for opposed rolls) that set the DCs. [/QUOTE]

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