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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 7632243" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>I havent had an issue with it.</p><p></p><p>Even presuming a Dex 20/ Expertise/ +4 Prof Rogue, you're looking at DC 23.</p><p></p><p>They still need something to Hide behind (at this Level, most creatures have darkvision, tremorsense, truesight etc) <u>AND the DM has to agree that the circumstances are appropriate for Hiding.</u></p><p></p><p>Example (Combat scenario):</p><p></p><p><strong>DM</strong>: OK Rogue, you did 55 damage to the Balor. It screams in rage and stares right at you, intent on cutting you to ribbons! Do you want to do anything with your Bonus action?</p><p><strong>Player</strong>: I move to the nearby pillar, and then I'll Hide behind it as a Bonus action using my Cunning action class feature.</p><p><strong>DM</strong>: The Balor is watching you pretty closely. Your attempt fails/ You cant hide there.</p><p></p><p>That's a bit of an outlier (normally in the chaos of combat, hiding is totally appropriate as long as a creature isnt watching you closely... and watching you closely is hard to do when your Barbarian friend is trying to smash it's face in with an axe) but it's an important rule to remember.</p><p></p><p>'Hiding' isnt just button mashing in 5E. It requires a little bit of set up and/or context to be even possible in the first place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 7632243, member: 6788736"] I havent had an issue with it. Even presuming a Dex 20/ Expertise/ +4 Prof Rogue, you're looking at DC 23. They still need something to Hide behind (at this Level, most creatures have darkvision, tremorsense, truesight etc) [U]AND the DM has to agree that the circumstances are appropriate for Hiding.[/U] Example (Combat scenario): [B]DM[/B]: OK Rogue, you did 55 damage to the Balor. It screams in rage and stares right at you, intent on cutting you to ribbons! Do you want to do anything with your Bonus action? [B]Player[/B]: I move to the nearby pillar, and then I'll Hide behind it as a Bonus action using my Cunning action class feature. [B]DM[/B]: The Balor is watching you pretty closely. Your attempt fails/ You cant hide there. That's a bit of an outlier (normally in the chaos of combat, hiding is totally appropriate as long as a creature isnt watching you closely... and watching you closely is hard to do when your Barbarian friend is trying to smash it's face in with an axe) but it's an important rule to remember. 'Hiding' isnt just button mashing in 5E. It requires a little bit of set up and/or context to be even possible in the first place. [/QUOTE]
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