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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 7632523" data-attributes="member: 6788736">The Hiding rules (page 60 PHB, sidebar) states: ''The DM decides when circumstances are appropriate for Hiding''.Arent you the DM?The RAW also goes on to state: ''The question isnt whether a creature can see you when you're hiding. The question is whether it can see you clearly.''The rules assume nothing of the sort. The assumption is yours.The rules state it's down to the DM to determine when circumstances are appropriate for hiding (using common sense).If you and I are playing Hide and Seek, (and you happen to be a 20th level Rogue) and I watch you (clear as day) crawl inside a cardboard box and close the lid, you are not hidden from me. I know where you are (and am objectively correct in that knowledge).This is why we have DM's; to adjudicate this kind of stuff, and take into account context.If the party Rogue (under close supervision) walks over to a tree or pillar, and attempts to Hide, his check auto-fails.Now you dont HAVE to run it that way. Plenty of DMs run it as 'find cover - mash the Hide button'. In other words plenty of DMs decide that these are  all the circumstances one needs to Hide.For mine, those circumstances (find cover and roll a Stealth check via the Hide action) are already expressly covered by the rules, and are not what the rules are talking about when they add the additional text (over and above 'find cover and take the Hide action' when they then go on to state: 'the DM determines when you can/ cannot hide'.Hiding flowchart (RAW):Step 1: Find appropriate cover/ concealment.Step 2: Use appropriate action to take the Hide action.Step 3: Do circumstances other than the above, enable you to Hide (as determined by the DM)? For example, are you under close observation during the hiding attempt, and is it plainly obvious where you're hiding?Step 4: Compare Stealth check result to passive perception of eligible targets.You're missing Step 3 in your games. You're allowing ''button mash'' stealth checks, and ignoring context (such as a monster watching you closely as you crawl into your hiding spot).That's fine if that's how you want to run Stealth (it's your games, you're the DM and the DM determines when the circumstances for hiding is appropriate). But if you decide that kind of circumstance (hiding under direct observation) is NOT appropriate for Hiding (as the RAW tells you to do), you're well within your rights to do so.</blockquote>

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