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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 7633822" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>Chill man.</p><p></p><p>Your argument is flawed. I know people arent pointing it out to you in the nicest way, but its flawed.</p><p></p><p>The RAW clearly states that in order to attempt to Hide you must 1) Break LOS - <u>AND </u>- 2) DM rules circumstances are appropriate.</p><p></p><p>Breaking LOS isnt (in itself) enough to attempt to Hide. Its the minimum requirement. After you've broken LOS, the DM gets to make a call if the <strong>other</strong> circumstances around your hiding attempt, allow the attempt to hide (or render you hiding attempt - behind cover - impossible).</p><p></p><p>Examples include being closely watched as you crawl into your obvious hiding spot. For mine, that would totally negate your ability to hide in that spot (unless there were other circumstances that might count in your favor - such as a hidden trapdoor or hidden compartment you could slink off behind in that hiding spot).</p><p></p><p>Generally, in combat, the monsters arent paying that much attention to the child like halfling (and are more focussed on the hairy raging Barbarian with the 6 foot Axe frothing at the mouth and trying to carve them a new orifice, or the Wizard tossing blasts of lightning from his fingers). </p><p></p><p>That said, when the little cut-throat pops up and shoots him in the privates for 30+ points of sneak attack damage, that likely get's their attention however (making further hiding more difficult, or even flat out impossible if they're watching you closely, and your hiding spot is obvious).</p><p></p><p>It's a question of context and common sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 7633822, member: 6788736"] Chill man. Your argument is flawed. I know people arent pointing it out to you in the nicest way, but its flawed. The RAW clearly states that in order to attempt to Hide you must 1) Break LOS - [U]AND [/U]- 2) DM rules circumstances are appropriate. Breaking LOS isnt (in itself) enough to attempt to Hide. Its the minimum requirement. After you've broken LOS, the DM gets to make a call if the [B]other[/B] circumstances around your hiding attempt, allow the attempt to hide (or render you hiding attempt - behind cover - impossible). Examples include being closely watched as you crawl into your obvious hiding spot. For mine, that would totally negate your ability to hide in that spot (unless there were other circumstances that might count in your favor - such as a hidden trapdoor or hidden compartment you could slink off behind in that hiding spot). Generally, in combat, the monsters arent paying that much attention to the child like halfling (and are more focussed on the hairy raging Barbarian with the 6 foot Axe frothing at the mouth and trying to carve them a new orifice, or the Wizard tossing blasts of lightning from his fingers). That said, when the little cut-throat pops up and shoots him in the privates for 30+ points of sneak attack damage, that likely get's their attention however (making further hiding more difficult, or even flat out impossible if they're watching you closely, and your hiding spot is obvious). It's a question of context and common sense. [/QUOTE]
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