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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tonguez" data-source="post: 6772082" data-attributes="member: 1125">"A bunch of super heroes in a farm house? I feel like I've seen that in a movie before"the Arrow half of the crossover was a far more coherent story which gave some great touchy feely moments, good acting from Ollie and Cisco and allowed everyone involved to develop a bit more personality. We start with a flashback to faux Egypt 4000 years ago where Khufu, Chay-ara, Hath-Set and Ramses the Wise are doing their thing. The set design was pretty but the acting stiff and unconvincing, this was not two lovers bound by destiny. I'm also kind of bummed that they used Hath-Set's origin story for the villain but called him Vandal Savage. Vandal Savage immortal caveman is so much cooler <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />. back 'today' we see the combined crews heading for an old farmhouse outside Central City to hideout. They're all in civilian clothes and we get the best line of the episode, Theas'"bunch of superheroes in a farm house" quip - which was amusing. Later when Felicity asks Ollie why he's all distracted now they're in Central city we get another nice line when Ollie says "Well, maybe it's too bright and sunny for me here?!" The episode gives us some technobabble and geek time between Cisco and Felicity and some dramatic tension for Cisco and the Hawks and also between the distracted Ollie and his past. These were well acted by Cisco and Ollie respectively and helped to give a bit more character to Carter as he  tries to get Kendra to embrace her past and be the warrior priestess. Kendra isn't sure she wants to embrace her past and Cisco is on a downer as his new girlfriend apparently is destined for other things. We get references to St Roch University via a betamax tape from 1975 which Felicity says will take a while to decode. 5 seconds later they are watching Dr Boardman (who apparently will be a Legends regular) discuss the Vandal Savage legend and making reference to an object that can stop him. Meteors and what Cisco names Nth metal (yeah um sure)In the Arrow centric story we see Ollie go off to find out about his son who we learn is named William rather than Conner. He also doesn't tell Felicity, she storms off in a tizzy and that sets up for the mini-climax. The child of Ollie story fits here as a side tangent which may have consequences in later episodes.Vandal Hath-Set gets more development in this episode too, being a bit more credibly menacing than before as he makes his threats and demands that the Hawks be handed over (another nice line here when Barry says they are not defending Hawks out of hubris but for hope. Anyway the JSA team up happens but Ollie makes a bad call and Ciscos gadget doesn't work. Everybody dies - but not really because the Flash finally runs fast enough to time travel (understandably as he was outrunning a magic nuclear blast of total devastation). This gives the team a chance to do things better the second time, especially as Barry can now warn them about the booboos.So we get to see things happen again but with better calls that finally sees the team apparently vapourize Vandal Hath-Set. They go off releived and Cisco gets a goodbye kiss as Kendra and Carter Hall head off to their home city St Roch. It all ends with the sinister Merlin collecting the Vandal Hath-Set dust and telling it that "you owe me one buddy"Anyway watched in a single run the Flash/Arrow crossover was okay, with some well acted drama, nice action scenes and some fun nods and easter eggs. It did have some large logic holes and the Hawks lack chemistry. It was also more a backdoor pilot for Legends of Tomorrow but didn't entirely neglect the host shows even if many of the supporting cast were either shoehorned in to the first half and then entire missing in the second. Thats a concern and may highlight a problem thats going to plague the 10 core cast members of Legends.</blockquote>

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