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<blockquote data-quote="Runesong42" data-source="post: 2358783" data-attributes="member: 10578">I like this idea.&nbsp; A lot. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The Bard could be the Faceman, and probably the &quot;leader&quot; of the group.&nbsp; If he focuses all his spells on Divination-type, he could be a bad-ass detective.&nbsp; Same for the Rogue, although the Rogue could be the Infiltrator type, like a second-story man.&nbsp; For the Rogue, introduce all sorts of wacky magic-item-like gadgets for him to use, and I'd bet he'd be happy.&nbsp; For the Monk, he could be the muscle who takes people in alive, using his keen martial arts skills.&nbsp; The Ranger, obviously, would be the sniper, keeping tabs on his friends from afar or doing a lot of shot-on-the-run type manoeuvres.Now, important things to note:They're all first level.&nbsp; The Ranger is the only guy who starts with a +1 BAB, and it's probably higher b/c of STR or DEX.&nbsp; The Rogue, Monk, and Bard will all probaby have decent DEX scores, which means they all have decent ranged abilities.&nbsp; Couple this with the fact that crossbows are simple weapons, and that the monk can use them, you have a range party to mess with.&nbsp; Go one better and introduce decent firearms, and THEN you'll see some scary ranged damage potential.Just because the Ranger chooses his specialization in archery doesn't mean he can't use melee weapons.&nbsp; Stress this fact to him.&nbsp; Since he's the only one who can use weapons with a damage potential of d10 or better, he should have a NASTY backup weapon to use in melee.&nbsp; If these high-dex people choose Weapon Finesse feats at 2nd level, suddenly their melee potential goes way up as well.&nbsp; Weapon Finesse can be used on Unarmed Combat, too, so when the monk uses his Flurry ability, he'll be well off.I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting, but this should help for now. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Runesong42, post: 2358783, member: 10578"] I like this idea. A lot. :) The Bard could be the Faceman, and probably the "leader" of the group. If he focuses all his spells on Divination-type, he could be a bad-ass detective. Same for the Rogue, although the Rogue could be the Infiltrator type, like a second-story man. For the Rogue, introduce all sorts of wacky magic-item-like gadgets for him to use, and I'd bet he'd be happy. For the Monk, he could be the muscle who takes people in alive, using his keen martial arts skills. The Ranger, obviously, would be the sniper, keeping tabs on his friends from afar or doing a lot of shot-on-the-run type manoeuvres. Now, important things to note: They're all first level. The Ranger is the only guy who starts with a +1 BAB, and it's probably higher b/c of STR or DEX. The Rogue, Monk, and Bard will all probaby have decent DEX scores, which means they all have decent ranged abilities. Couple this with the fact that crossbows are simple weapons, and that the monk can use them, you have a range party to mess with. Go one better and introduce decent firearms, and THEN you'll see some scary ranged damage potential. Just because the Ranger chooses his specialization in archery doesn't mean he can't use melee weapons. Stress this fact to him. Since he's the only one who can use weapons with a damage potential of d10 or better, he should have a NASTY backup weapon to use in melee. If these high-dex people choose Weapon Finesse feats at 2nd level, suddenly their melee potential goes way up as well. Weapon Finesse can be used on Unarmed Combat, too, so when the monk uses his Flurry ability, he'll be well off. I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting, but this should help for now. :) [/QUOTE]

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