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<blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 2359661" data-attributes="member: 4134">That party doesn't look bad: The monk will have a decent AC, due to dex, wis, and maybe items (bracers of armour). This and his bonus feats (combat reflexes, stunning fist, improved trip) will let him tangle up enemies, while the rogue sneak attacks them and the ranger turns them into puncussions. In the meanwhile, the bard will buff them with his bardic music and spells, if he's not troubling foes.Sure, it's not the fighter/rogue/cleric/wizard combo, but it can work.Either the mentioned UA rogue variant, or use this house rule I intend to use: Rogues can trade each die of sneak attack bonus damage for a feat from a special list. So a rogue 3 could have SA +2d6 or SA +1d6 and a feat or two feats, and so on. The bonus feat list would have skill focus for all rogue class skills, the +2/2 Feats (like Alertness), whatever other feats have to do with skills (stuff like Versatile, which lets you have one skill as class skill for every class, or Open Minded, which gives you 5 skill points.), and maybe the feats from the Dodge and Combat Expertise trees and similar stuff.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kae'Yoss, post: 2359661, member: 4134"] That party doesn't look bad: The monk will have a decent AC, due to dex, wis, and maybe items (bracers of armour). This and his bonus feats (combat reflexes, stunning fist, improved trip) will let him tangle up enemies, while the rogue sneak attacks them and the ranger turns them into puncussions. In the meanwhile, the bard will buff them with his bardic music and spells, if he's not troubling foes. Sure, it's not the fighter/rogue/cleric/wizard combo, but it can work. Either the mentioned UA rogue variant, or use this house rule I intend to use: Rogues can trade each die of sneak attack bonus damage for a feat from a special list. So a rogue 3 could have SA +2d6 or SA +1d6 and a feat or two feats, and so on. The bonus feat list would have skill focus for all rogue class skills, the +2/2 Feats (like Alertness), whatever other feats have to do with skills (stuff like Versatile, which lets you have one skill as class skill for every class, or Open Minded, which gives you 5 skill points.), and maybe the feats from the Dodge and Combat Expertise trees and similar stuff. [/QUOTE]

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