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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8147447" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Wow, Break DC 30 - that's four higher than a solid metal chain! Really impressive for a liana.</p><p></p><p>Right, that should mean the line can support four times as heavy a load as the Break DC 25 spider's silk rope, for "a bloodvine rope can support 7,200 pounds safely, or up to 21,600 pounds with an increasing risk of it breaking".</p><p></p><p>So it's +300% stronger than spider's silk rope, had +66% more hit points <strong>and</strong> has hardness 5 too boot. It also somehow has DC 35 for Escape Artist checks to escape from it (which I guess means someone without Use Rope can just use one a bloodvine instead. Heck, someone with lower than +25 Use Rope is better off tying up their victims with one).</p><p></p><p>That seems excessively good for a rope that's only twice as pricey as spider's silk.</p><p></p><p>Hold on, can you make <em>ropes of entanglement</em> out of bloodvine to make them ridiculously hard to escape from?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing much to go on here, no Break DCs or how much weight they can support.</p><p></p><p>The 100% stretch factor (2 feet to 4 feet) indicates they are as as elastic as high quality nylon. They're a bit cheaper than standard silk rope by length - five silver pieces for four feet, while the same length of silk rope (10 gp for 50 ft.) would be eight silver pieces. Plus that 5 sp includes four small metal hooks, which presumably would cost something to make too. If anything, they appear to be underpriced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8147447, member: 57383"] Wow, Break DC 30 - that's four higher than a solid metal chain! Really impressive for a liana. Right, that should mean the line can support four times as heavy a load as the Break DC 25 spider's silk rope, for "a bloodvine rope can support 7,200 pounds safely, or up to 21,600 pounds with an increasing risk of it breaking". So it's +300% stronger than spider's silk rope, had +66% more hit points [B]and[/B] has hardness 5 too boot. It also somehow has DC 35 for Escape Artist checks to escape from it (which I guess means someone without Use Rope can just use one a bloodvine instead. Heck, someone with lower than +25 Use Rope is better off tying up their victims with one). That seems excessively good for a rope that's only twice as pricey as spider's silk. Hold on, can you make [I]ropes of entanglement[/I] out of bloodvine to make them ridiculously hard to escape from? Nothing much to go on here, no Break DCs or how much weight they can support. The 100% stretch factor (2 feet to 4 feet) indicates they are as as elastic as high quality nylon. They're a bit cheaper than standard silk rope by length - five silver pieces for four feet, while the same length of silk rope (10 gp for 50 ft.) would be eight silver pieces. Plus that 5 sp includes four small metal hooks, which presumably would cost something to make too. If anything, they appear to be underpriced. [/QUOTE]
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