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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8163808" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>The 12 hit points of a <em>rope of entanglement</em> is the same as a <em>+1 magic weapon</em> made from a standard hempen rope, but such a rope would have have hardness 2. Obviously some additional enchantment was used to grant it hardness 10 and DR 5/slashing.</p><p></p><p>The weight of 5 pounds would match a 25 foot length of hemp rope, which lines up with the "about 30 feet long" in the description. If it were literally 30 feet long it should weigh 6 pounds assuming the rope is of standard hempen heaviness.</p><p></p><p>Note that there's no mention of an attack role or anything - a <em>rope of entanglement</em> unerringly wraps itself around its target. There's also no size limit, so it can entangle enormous creatures that would need more than 30 feet of line to tie up - I doubt that'd wrap around a Colossal Purple Worm more than once. Presumably the rope "stretches to fit" like magic clothing does.</p><p></p><p>The fact that "An entangled creature can break free with a DC 20 Strength check" is interesting. To me that implies they escape via brute force <strong>without breaking the rope</strong>. So I'm thinking the rope simply releases them when its strained to a degree it risks snapping, suggesting it <strong>might</strong> have a Break DC significantly higher than that 20.</p><p></p><p>The increased hardness might also be evidence that the rope has a higher Break DC than the DC 25 I'd expect from a <em>+1 hempen rope</em>. Maybe even Break DC 33 since it's hardness is +10 rather than +2? That'd match a <em>+5 rope</em> though, which feels too high, especially considering a <em>+5 magic weapon</em> normally costs +50,000 gp.</p><p></p><p>If one averaged its hardness 10 with the 2 extra Break DC a regular <em>+1 rope</em> would provide, that'd be +6 for Break DC 29. That's equivalent to a <em>+3 hempen rope</em>. A <em>+3 magic weapon</em> costs +18,000 gp for the enchantment, which is within the ballpark of the <em>rope of entanglement's</em> listed price of 21,000 gp.</p><p></p><p>Not sure I care for either of those arguments though. A <em>rope of entanglement</em> could simply be enchanted to be as strong as a steel chain of the same heaviness, thereby matching the listed hardness 10. That'd be Break DC 26 since both a hempen rope and chain are 5 feet long per pound.</p><p></p><p>Let's be conservative and use the lowest of those three Break DC estimates.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>Conclusion</strong></span></p><p>A <em>rope of entanglement</em> is roughly equivalent to a <em>+1 hempen rope</em> but is enchanted to be as strong as steel chain. It has Break DC 26 and can support 2,400 pounds safely, or up to 7,200 lbs with an increasing risk of breakage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8163808, member: 57383"] The 12 hit points of a [I]rope of entanglement[/I] is the same as a [I]+1 magic weapon[/I] made from a standard hempen rope, but such a rope would have have hardness 2. Obviously some additional enchantment was used to grant it hardness 10 and DR 5/slashing. The weight of 5 pounds would match a 25 foot length of hemp rope, which lines up with the "about 30 feet long" in the description. If it were literally 30 feet long it should weigh 6 pounds assuming the rope is of standard hempen heaviness. Note that there's no mention of an attack role or anything - a [I]rope of entanglement[/I] unerringly wraps itself around its target. There's also no size limit, so it can entangle enormous creatures that would need more than 30 feet of line to tie up - I doubt that'd wrap around a Colossal Purple Worm more than once. Presumably the rope "stretches to fit" like magic clothing does. The fact that "An entangled creature can break free with a DC 20 Strength check" is interesting. To me that implies they escape via brute force [B]without breaking the rope[/B]. So I'm thinking the rope simply releases them when its strained to a degree it risks snapping, suggesting it [B]might[/B] have a Break DC significantly higher than that 20. The increased hardness might also be evidence that the rope has a higher Break DC than the DC 25 I'd expect from a [I]+1 hempen rope[/I]. Maybe even Break DC 33 since it's hardness is +10 rather than +2? That'd match a [I]+5 rope[/I] though, which feels too high, especially considering a [I]+5 magic weapon[/I] normally costs +50,000 gp. If one averaged its hardness 10 with the 2 extra Break DC a regular [I]+1 rope[/I] would provide, that'd be +6 for Break DC 29. That's equivalent to a [I]+3 hempen rope[/I]. A [I]+3 magic weapon[/I] costs +18,000 gp for the enchantment, which is within the ballpark of the [I]rope of entanglement's[/I] listed price of 21,000 gp. Not sure I care for either of those arguments though. A [I]rope of entanglement[/I] could simply be enchanted to be as strong as a steel chain of the same heaviness, thereby matching the listed hardness 10. That'd be Break DC 26 since both a hempen rope and chain are 5 feet long per pound. Let's be conservative and use the lowest of those three Break DC estimates. [SIZE=5][B]Conclusion[/B][/SIZE] A [I]rope of entanglement[/I] is roughly equivalent to a [I]+1 hempen rope[/I] but is enchanted to be as strong as steel chain. It has Break DC 26 and can support 2,400 pounds safely, or up to 7,200 lbs with an increasing risk of breakage. [/QUOTE]
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