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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 362914" data-attributes="member: 2020">In the books, Balin, Ori, and Oin led an attempt to retake Khazad-Dum (Moria) from the enemy who held it.&nbsp; Since King Dain of the Lonely Mountain and Iron Hills knew of Durin's Bane (he did not call it a Balrog, but having seen it, he knew it was a truly monstrous foe) he apparently disapproved, yet Balin got quite a number of volunteers and off they went.&nbsp; The assault on Moria by Balin and his dwarves was successful.&nbsp; They swept away the orcs in the eastern upper and central Deeps and chambers.&nbsp; They would go on to hold Moria for at least 5 years.&nbsp; From what Gandalf read in the remains of the book (in the chamber of Mazarbul) I am under the impression that the initial counterassault came from OUTSIDE Moria.&nbsp; The invading orcs came up from Dimril Dale, and eventually the dwarven defenses broke (although the dwarves apparently held the Bridge for a very long time.)&nbsp; The final stand, in the chamber of Mazarbul, appears to have been made against orcs and perhaps trolls.&nbsp; I have not read most of the auxillary books on Tolkien's works that might give answers to my questions, but I thought some of you might have, so I wish to put forward the following questions:&nbsp; Why didn't the balrog initially block Balin's entry into Moria?&nbsp; Why, during the battles in which Balin retook Moria, did the balrog not get involved?&nbsp; Why did the balrog not get involved while dwarves had their way in Moria for over 5 years?&nbsp; Was the counterattack against Balin, indeed, from outside Moria?&nbsp; Was the balrog involved in the counterattack?&nbsp; Who WERE the Drummers in the Deep?&nbsp; And ... I have ALWAYS been curious about this one ... what WAS the thing down in the well, making the tapping noises (the well which Pippin decided to drop a stone down into) ?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 362914, member: 2020"] In the books, Balin, Ori, and Oin led an attempt to retake Khazad-Dum (Moria) from the enemy who held it. Since King Dain of the Lonely Mountain and Iron Hills knew of Durin's Bane (he did not call it a Balrog, but having seen it, he knew it was a truly monstrous foe) he apparently disapproved, yet Balin got quite a number of volunteers and off they went. The assault on Moria by Balin and his dwarves was successful. They swept away the orcs in the eastern upper and central Deeps and chambers. They would go on to hold Moria for at least 5 years. From what Gandalf read in the remains of the book (in the chamber of Mazarbul) I am under the impression that the initial counterassault came from OUTSIDE Moria. The invading orcs came up from Dimril Dale, and eventually the dwarven defenses broke (although the dwarves apparently held the Bridge for a very long time.) The final stand, in the chamber of Mazarbul, appears to have been made against orcs and perhaps trolls. I have not read most of the auxillary books on Tolkien's works that might give answers to my questions, but I thought some of you might have, so I wish to put forward the following questions: Why didn't the balrog initially block Balin's entry into Moria? Why, during the battles in which Balin retook Moria, did the balrog not get involved? Why did the balrog not get involved while dwarves had their way in Moria for over 5 years? Was the counterattack against Balin, indeed, from outside Moria? Was the balrog involved in the counterattack? Who WERE the Drummers in the Deep? And ... I have ALWAYS been curious about this one ... what WAS the thing down in the well, making the tapping noises (the well which Pippin decided to drop a stone down into) ? [/QUOTE]

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