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<blockquote data-quote="Gallowglass" data-source="post: 365733" data-attributes="member: 5284">Re the Balrog&quot;We had long known that under Cradhrasa&nbsp; terror dwelt, but had I know the Dwarves had stirred this up I would have denied this dwarf entry&quot; or some such: doesn't Celeborn imply that the wise know in general that something very nasty is lurking in Moria, but not exactly what?As for Uruk-hai, the implication is that they are hybrid men and Orcs/Goblins: the later being&nbsp; geenrally intechangeable terms although in places Tolkein talks of &quot;great Black Uruk's of the Mountains&quot;, tending to encourage the usage of &quot;goblin&quot; for the smaller breeds and Hob-Goblin, Orc and Uruk for teh larger &quot;pure&quot; breeds. The Uruk-hai range from very goblin-like to almost human, like Bill Ferny's &quot;friend&quot; in Bree IIRC. The characters (well, Legolas, Gimli, Merry and Pippin) discuss this after Helms Deep.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gallowglass, post: 365733, member: 5284"] [b]Re the Balrog[/b] "We had long known that under Cradhrasa terror dwelt, but had I know the Dwarves had stirred this up I would have denied this dwarf entry" or some such: doesn't Celeborn imply that the wise know in [b]general[/b] that something very nasty is lurking in Moria, but not exactly what? As for Uruk-hai, the implication is that they are hybrid men and Orcs/Goblins: the later being geenrally intechangeable terms although in places Tolkein talks of "great Black Uruk's of the Mountains", tending to encourage the usage of "goblin" for the smaller breeds and Hob-Goblin, Orc and Uruk for teh larger "pure" breeds. The Uruk-hai range from very goblin-like to almost human, like Bill Ferny's "friend" in Bree IIRC. The characters (well, Legolas, Gimli, Merry and Pippin) discuss this after Helms Deep. [/QUOTE]

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