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A serious set of questions to Colonel Hardisson and the Scholars of J.R.R. Tolkien
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<blockquote data-quote="ColonelHardisson" data-source="post: 368422" data-attributes="member: 363"><p>Thanks. That's a lot better than I could have put it.</p><p></p><p>Edena - I'm not being combative. It just seems that your basic premise is flawed. If anything, Gimli is the one who is more inclined to start a fight - note that he was the one to make the first aggressive move. But besides that, as I said, what you propose is against Celeborn's nature. Sure, it could've happened, just like my scenarios with Aragorn and Pippin doing in Frodo could have happened - but it wouldn't have happened, at least not in any scenario that stayed true to Tolkien's intent.</p><p></p><p>I like alternate universe ideas, I really do. It's just that I think they are more successful when they are based upon attitudes and actions that we actually witness in the book or TV show or movie that is using this device. In this case, there is nothing to indicate that Celeborn would have such an extreme reaction. Galadriel, who was able to see into the hearts of people, would likely not have married, and remained married, to a guy who would precipitously off somebody like you propose. She knew Celeborn's heart, which should be an indication to the reader that the Fellowship would not have been in danger of him even if Galadriel was absent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ColonelHardisson, post: 368422, member: 363"] Thanks. That's a lot better than I could have put it. Edena - I'm not being combative. It just seems that your basic premise is flawed. If anything, Gimli is the one who is more inclined to start a fight - note that he was the one to make the first aggressive move. But besides that, as I said, what you propose is against Celeborn's nature. Sure, it could've happened, just like my scenarios with Aragorn and Pippin doing in Frodo could have happened - but it wouldn't have happened, at least not in any scenario that stayed true to Tolkien's intent. I like alternate universe ideas, I really do. It's just that I think they are more successful when they are based upon attitudes and actions that we actually witness in the book or TV show or movie that is using this device. In this case, there is nothing to indicate that Celeborn would have such an extreme reaction. Galadriel, who was able to see into the hearts of people, would likely not have married, and remained married, to a guy who would precipitously off somebody like you propose. She knew Celeborn's heart, which should be an indication to the reader that the Fellowship would not have been in danger of him even if Galadriel was absent. [/QUOTE]
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