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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grimhelm" data-source="post: 4679740" data-attributes="member: 37079">"I kind of think you just don't like not winning." Well, frankly I am a little offended by this statement. Are you serious? I mean, really, not winning is hardly the problem. How many games of St. Petersburg have we played? How many have I lost, but keep playing anyway? If anything, failure motivates me. However, I must, absolutely must, feel that I have some control over the final verdict. The game of Acquire is the most significant example of this that I can think of. I had absolutely no control over what happened after I was essentially dead and waiting for the game to end. I have no problem with losing as long as I was out-played or beaten by my opponent, not because some random game mechanic engineered my downfall. Just ask Vince how many games of Othello we have played, and how many of them I have won. The answer is nearly zero, yet defeat spurs me on because I feel like I could figure out the game and influence the outcome. So, if you were serious, I am offended. If you weren't, then, well, not so funny. I am competitive, but I am certainly not afraid to lose.  Twilight Imperium had serious flaws. I don't remember Game of Thrones at all.</blockquote>