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<blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 6016840" data-attributes="member: 25619"><p><strong>Medievalism (and Greyhawk specific idea)</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think in medieval campaign, the idea of moneychanging being legally required to trade doesn't make sense. </p><p></p><p>I think you are correct that the weight of the coins and their purity is what matters to the medieval mind.</p><p></p><p>I think you are incorrect that the typical medieval state can enforce a uniform currency monopoly. Just as medieval states didn't have as much of a monopoly on the legitimate use of force as modern states, they didn't have as direct control of the economy.</p><p></p><p>So I figure the "change Furyondian sp's for Dyvers sp's if you want to buy stuff in Dyvers" is silly -- entire regions are likely to use the coinage of whoever mints reliable coins in high volume. Therefore, I rarely pay attention to the source of coinage in my campaign, unless it's exotic or ancient.</p><p></p><p>Here's how I'd do Greyhawk, if asked:</p><p></p><p>1) Rel Astra was the original mint of the Great Kingdom. It's coins have always been reliable. It's a death penalty crime against Drax the Invulnerable's authority to counterfit or shave a Rel Astran coin in that fair city.</p><p></p><p>2) Northern Aerdy, Ahlissa, and other successor states to the Great Kingdom, the Iron League, Ratik, and the northern barbarians all use and prefer Rel Astran coinage to anything else. Under Ivid the Undying, the GK coinage was debased, so recent coinage from Ahlissa or Rauxes gets a 20% discount. But Ahlissa is now once again minting full value Great Kingdom coins, and is Irongate. They are accepted at par with Rel Astran coinage if they are recently dated (post 585 CY), but for older coins, they need to be weighted, because Ivid even (horrors!) faked the date stamp on debased coins.</p><p></p><p>3) Nyrond also issued coins, on par with those of the GK. During the war, it too debased. Now it's trying to go back to full value. There's a 20% discount for coins with 583-584 date stamps. Rel Astran and Furyondian coins are often uses, and preferred.</p><p></p><p>4) Dyvers issued the GK coins for the old Viceroyalty of Ferrond -- Dyvers, Furyondy, Veluna, and surrounding areas, including what's now the Empire of Iuz. Dyvers never debased, so its coins are preferred through most of the Nyr Dyv (and in Blackmoor), but are interchangeable with Nyrondian coins except those with the offending date stamps (which were never faked by the mint). Rel Astran money is good throughout this region.</p><p></p><p>5) Keoland issues its own coins, but just as its nobility adopted the language of the GK, they also aped its coinage. Keoish coins are fine throughout the Sheldomar Valley and in Greyhawk, and Rel Astran coins are accepted as a normal part of the currency.</p><p></p><p>6) In Greyhawk City and Cauldron, all coins are accepted, except debased coins of the 583-585 CY period in Nyrond, and any coins from Rauxes or Ahlissa (as it's too hard to tell which are faked). Most coins in circulation in Greyhawk are from Dyvers or Rel Astra. In Caudron, they are mostly Keoish.</p><p></p><p>7) Bissel uses Keoish or Dyvers coins, and will (like nearly everyone else) take Furyondian or Rel Astran coin without complaint. Baklunish coinage is illegal and must be exchanged.</p><p></p><p>8) Perrenland is like Bissel, except it also takes Baklunish coins.</p><p></p><p>9) Baklunish coins are most often minted in Zeif and are generally not accepted in non-Baklunish lands. The Tiger Nomads, Wolf Nomads, and Rovers of the Barrens rarely use coins, but if they do accept them, Baklunish or Dyvers are what they want. The rest of the East doesn't like Baklunish coinages because they are too different from the GK standard (Baklunish coinage prefers triangular electrum pieces), plus there's political hostility between Bissel's allies (Keoland and Veluna-Furyondy) and the invaders of Bissel.</p><p></p><p>Other campaign worlds, of course, may have quite difference economic histories.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="haakon1, post: 6016840, member: 25619"] [b]Medievalism (and Greyhawk specific idea)[/b] I think in medieval campaign, the idea of moneychanging being legally required to trade doesn't make sense. I think you are correct that the weight of the coins and their purity is what matters to the medieval mind. I think you are incorrect that the typical medieval state can enforce a uniform currency monopoly. Just as medieval states didn't have as much of a monopoly on the legitimate use of force as modern states, they didn't have as direct control of the economy. So I figure the "change Furyondian sp's for Dyvers sp's if you want to buy stuff in Dyvers" is silly -- entire regions are likely to use the coinage of whoever mints reliable coins in high volume. Therefore, I rarely pay attention to the source of coinage in my campaign, unless it's exotic or ancient. Here's how I'd do Greyhawk, if asked: 1) Rel Astra was the original mint of the Great Kingdom. It's coins have always been reliable. It's a death penalty crime against Drax the Invulnerable's authority to counterfit or shave a Rel Astran coin in that fair city. 2) Northern Aerdy, Ahlissa, and other successor states to the Great Kingdom, the Iron League, Ratik, and the northern barbarians all use and prefer Rel Astran coinage to anything else. Under Ivid the Undying, the GK coinage was debased, so recent coinage from Ahlissa or Rauxes gets a 20% discount. But Ahlissa is now once again minting full value Great Kingdom coins, and is Irongate. They are accepted at par with Rel Astran coinage if they are recently dated (post 585 CY), but for older coins, they need to be weighted, because Ivid even (horrors!) faked the date stamp on debased coins. 3) Nyrond also issued coins, on par with those of the GK. During the war, it too debased. Now it's trying to go back to full value. There's a 20% discount for coins with 583-584 date stamps. Rel Astran and Furyondian coins are often uses, and preferred. 4) Dyvers issued the GK coins for the old Viceroyalty of Ferrond -- Dyvers, Furyondy, Veluna, and surrounding areas, including what's now the Empire of Iuz. Dyvers never debased, so its coins are preferred through most of the Nyr Dyv (and in Blackmoor), but are interchangeable with Nyrondian coins except those with the offending date stamps (which were never faked by the mint). Rel Astran money is good throughout this region. 5) Keoland issues its own coins, but just as its nobility adopted the language of the GK, they also aped its coinage. Keoish coins are fine throughout the Sheldomar Valley and in Greyhawk, and Rel Astran coins are accepted as a normal part of the currency. 6) In Greyhawk City and Cauldron, all coins are accepted, except debased coins of the 583-585 CY period in Nyrond, and any coins from Rauxes or Ahlissa (as it's too hard to tell which are faked). Most coins in circulation in Greyhawk are from Dyvers or Rel Astra. In Caudron, they are mostly Keoish. 7) Bissel uses Keoish or Dyvers coins, and will (like nearly everyone else) take Furyondian or Rel Astran coin without complaint. Baklunish coinage is illegal and must be exchanged. 8) Perrenland is like Bissel, except it also takes Baklunish coins. 9) Baklunish coins are most often minted in Zeif and are generally not accepted in non-Baklunish lands. The Tiger Nomads, Wolf Nomads, and Rovers of the Barrens rarely use coins, but if they do accept them, Baklunish or Dyvers are what they want. The rest of the East doesn't like Baklunish coinages because they are too different from the GK standard (Baklunish coinage prefers triangular electrum pieces), plus there's political hostility between Bissel's allies (Keoland and Veluna-Furyondy) and the invaders of Bissel. Other campaign worlds, of course, may have quite difference economic histories. [/QUOTE]
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