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<blockquote data-quote="slobo777" data-source="post: 6011298" data-attributes="member: 6694877">Of course they aren't thinking of the physical die, or necessarily of the result currently showing on the die (this is not trivial, you may have advantage or disadvantage). You could go with:&quot;Make a roll of the d20. On a result of 10 or more . . .&quot;&quot;Re-use the value from the d20 thatwas applied to the current attack*. If it is 10 or more . . .&quot;Note that both include &quot;the d20&quot;. First means the physical die, although it is perhaps an unusual turn of phrase, I haven't found anything in the playtest packet can be used as a counter-example. Second is a version of consensus interpretation (and I'm not saying I disagree, just playing devil's advocate). Oddly it seems quite difficult to write unambiguous exception rules in this case. You can't assume that the value needed is actually showing for example, and there is no codified short phrase in the rules for &quot;the d20 roll used for an attack or check, before modifications&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="slobo777, post: 6011298, member: 6694877"] Of course they aren't thinking of the physical die, or necessarily of the result currently showing on the die (this is not trivial, you may have advantage or disadvantage). You could go with: "Make a roll of[I] the d20[/I]. On a result of 10 or more . . ." "Re-use the value from [I]the d20 [/I]thatwas applied to the current attack*. If it is 10 or more . . ." Note that both include "the d20". First means the physical die, although it is perhaps an unusual turn of phrase, I haven't found anything in the playtest packet can be used as a counter-example. Second is a version of consensus interpretation (and I'm not saying I disagree, just playing devil's advocate). Oddly it seems quite difficult to write unambiguous exception rules in this case. You can't assume that the value needed is actually showing for example, and there is no codified short phrase in the rules for "the d20 roll used for an attack or check, before modifications". [/QUOTE]

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