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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dandu" data-source="post: 5653738" data-attributes="member: 85158">Yes, for some reason these arguments assume each class can use class abilities and wealth when trying to determine what a class is capable of if all other things are equal. What a shocker.The fighter has free access to magical weapons, armor, and gear in all contests I have seen or participated in. I would say that being able to find anything is applied fairly. It just happens that what the fighter finds (equipment) sucks in comparison to what the wizard finds (spells).One could contrive a contest that goes "Olidimarra banishes the Fighter and Wizard to a plane but steals their equipment."Who wins this contest?  It's perfectly within reason in the D&D  universe, this could actually happen. The deity did nothing to the  Wizard that he did not also do to the Fighter... and the Wizard  promptly ensorcells the Fighter and makes him cry.These contests never read that for the reason that - hold onto your hat   - they prove nothing other than "if you take away a class' abilities,  they suck."Any class can be made to fail via fiat. That is why these sorts of scenarios generally assume that 1. Classes get to use their abilities.2. Anything that is in the allowed books can be found by the parties involved.3. There is no favoritism towards one class or another - ie, no fighting in AMFs, everyone is well rested and at full HP, and so forth.And probably a few more that I'm forgetting, but I trust you get the point. By allowing each class to perform at its maximum, you can see what they are capable of.</blockquote>

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