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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Visigani" data-source="post: 5654424" data-attributes="member: 6676235">Expand your consciousness Dandu.If both the dolphin and you have access to scuba gear... who is going to win the swimming contest? You both have the same benefits, have access to the same resources.. why would the dolphin win? How can this contest possibly be lopsided?I'm saying do the REVERSE. Strictly pare down what the Wizard has access to. A Scroll of Timestop might be found on every street corner.... but is it likely?This is what I mean by Intelligent Stopgap. The Fighter has his pre-built in and it's very easy to codify because virtually everything about the fighter is numerical, virtually all of his interactions are numbers based. He's swung at or he swings.The Fighter lives in the MMO.The Wizard lives in the storybook. He can cast "animate rope". Think about that single spell. Think about the obcene number of options and things you could do with JUST that spell.A first level wizard in the real world would be recognized as a God if he had access to just the spells in the SRD.Because of the intelligent things you can do with these spells, because of their untold options... you have to have an intelligent stopgap to work AGAINST them.All of these contests assume no such stopgap.Pun Pun is a great example of this. From what I understand it completely follows the rules. As do these Wizard contests. However, no one sane would let someone seriously do this at the table.Fighters do not have these limitless untold options and come out of the box packaged in a relatively balanced fashion because the things they do are largely numerical.See what I'm getting at here? The DM exists to temper the Wizard's ability because the Wizard by its very nature MUST have a plethora of options. You've said yourself that damage is the weakest aspect of the Wizard and of course you are correct because the Wizard's strength stems not from the numerical, but from the fantastical "What can I do with this?".These contests presume there's no DM there to spite the Wizard, to drain his spells, to make him think, to cause him consternation, to WEAKEN him and LIMIT those multitudinous options.</blockquote>

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