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<blockquote data-quote="Arrowhawk" data-source="post: 5659226" data-attributes="member: 6679551">I wouldn't consider kidnapping a baron's daughter...&quot;reality altering.&quot;&nbsp; So I'm not sure why you are telling me a god wouldn't interfere with it?&nbsp; I never said or suggested a god would.&nbsp; And as far as the motivation of Gods...who says they operate like you and me?&nbsp; Gods are whimsical and do whatever they want...sometimes even violating their own alignment restrctions.&nbsp; God's are not obligated to answer to mortals.&nbsp;&nbsp; Immortal beings are beyond the comprehension of mortal beings.&nbsp; Just read the Bible if you don't believe me.&nbsp; We only know what Gods want us to know.&nbsp;A Wizard can't do everything between &quot;encounters.&quot;&nbsp; A Wizard has to pick spells ahead of time.&nbsp; Most DM's don't tell the Wizard eveything the party is going to encounter, so the Wizard is going to have to guess at what spells will be needed.&nbsp; This limits the Wizards options in terms of doing &quot;everything.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wizards don't get THAT many spells between levels 6-10.&nbsp; They simply can't do everything that needs doine from start to finish.&nbsp; If they can, then you really need to consider adding more than a few encounters between rest periods and not telegraphing what you're going to throw at the party.&nbsp;And the point I'm making is about breaking reality.&nbsp; That is the basis of Tier 1 characters.&nbsp; Jaronk will tell you a Wizard/Cleric/Druid/Erudite, etc... will break reality...he doesn't say at what level they can do it...he just throws it out there like they can do it from levels 6-15...which they can't.&nbsp; You can't make Tier 1 without the class ability to break reality.&nbsp; You start messing with the fabric of reality and I'll give you odds that God(s) will interfere if he/she/it/they exist.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arrowhawk, post: 5659226, member: 6679551"] I wouldn't consider kidnapping a baron's daughter..."reality altering." So I'm not sure why you are telling me a god wouldn't interfere with it? I never said or suggested a god would. And as far as the motivation of Gods...who says they operate like you and me? Gods are whimsical and do whatever they want...sometimes even violating their own alignment restrctions. God's are not obligated to answer to mortals. Immortal beings are beyond the comprehension of mortal beings. Just read the Bible if you don't believe me. We only know what Gods want us to know. A Wizard can't do everything between "encounters." A Wizard has to pick spells [I]ahead of time[/I]. Most DM's don't tell the Wizard eveything the party is going to encounter, so the Wizard is going to have to guess at what spells will be needed. This limits the Wizards options in terms of doing "everything." Wizards don't get THAT many spells between levels 6-10. They simply can't do everything that needs doine from start to finish. If they can, then you really need to consider adding more than a few encounters between rest periods and not telegraphing what you're going to throw at the party. And the point I'm making [I]is[/I] about breaking reality. That is the basis of Tier 1 characters. Jaronk will tell you a Wizard/Cleric/Druid/Erudite, etc... will break reality...he doesn't say [I]at what level [/I]they can do it...he just throws it out there like they can do it from levels 6-15...which they can't. You can't make Tier 1 without the class ability to break reality. You start messing with the fabric of reality and I'll give you odds that God(s) will interfere if he/she/it/they exist. [/QUOTE]

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