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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arrowhawk" data-source="post: 5660003" data-attributes="member: 6679551">Where did I every say or assume there was only one god?  The only gods who are interested in balance are the NEUTRAL gods. Everyone else is trying to tip the scales in their favor. God's don't need excuses to do what they want. They don't answer to the player characters' sense of what those gods should be involved in. There's a whole lot of stuff that goes on per the source books that is not convincing. So good luck on people agreeing on that. I believe what you are trying to convey is that the DM cannot be abitrary. Players have to beleive that if they do the same thing...they'll get the same result. That is not the same as being "IMPARTIAL." I think you're using the wrong word here. "IMPARTIAL" would imply that you do not consider the PC's when creating world. An "IMPARTIAL" DM would allow 1st level characters to walk into and be killed by a 5th level dungeon. A DM's job is to be 100% partial. You are charged with making the game fun for all players. That means presenting them with a world that has just the right amount of challenge. That is partiality. When your PC's foil some noble bad guy, you don't have the high ranking noble call in some Mind Flayer Assassin and wipe out the party do you? Even when the noble could totally afford to do it? I tell you what. You take all the 1st level scrolls you want into the Expedition to the Barrier Peaks (lvl 9-12) and we'll see how far you get. You can give a Fighter unlimited 1st level spells and I doubt that would even move him up a Tier. 1d4+1 against a pack of Gnolls? How many 1st level Magic Missles do you think you'd get off before they tore your 5th level Wizard into tattered ribbons? JaronK requires that you change the very fabric of reality to be Tier 1.  1st, 2nd, or 3rd level spells aren't going to do it.   That is your perrogative. But I agree with Jacob. If you think random encounters are for children DM's, then you're denying yourself a very useful tool in making the game challenging for the players and balancing out spell casters within a group.   A Limited Wish is hardly game breaking. It's limited to effects of 6th level spells and lower. I don't even think it can permenantly raise ability scores.   Well, the examples he throws out are like destroying the world of Toril, or destroying entire planes, or making invincible armies, or binding Efreeti and getting Wish Loops, or using Love's Pain and killing someone on another plane and they don't get any saving throw or spell resitence. And if you can do ALL those things...not just one of them, then you're Tier 1.</blockquote>

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