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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8592444" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Oh, I know, I am just tired of hearing about only wizard-haters who want to nerf them or ban them.I've posted a number of times about bridging the gap between casters and martials, and for me nerfing casters is a very viable solution since I prefer a lower-powered game myself.LOL, yeah I remember that! Here was my first post on it:I won't get into it again, but yeah I thought it was a bad rule. I don't think it would make Sorcerers better than Wizards or destroy their class, but I don't see a need to cover that again.True, ever nerf rule I make for them gets two typical responses:1. Just ban wizards2. You can't take away my toys!So, as far as the OP is concerned, we toyed with limiting casters to 5th level spells, but ultimately went to 7th level since access is so delayed and limited. Even lower level spells are delayed:Level 1 - 1stLevel 4 - 2ndLevel 7 - 3rdLevel 10 - 4thLevel 13 - 5thLevel 16 - 6thLevel 19 - 7thAnd even when I represented that, I got backlash about not allowing 3rd-5th level spells until later levels.  <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging    :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>