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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8592628" data-attributes="member: 6877472">I disagree.  CoDzilla occurs because caster players thought that casting buffs on themselves to make themselves better than Fighters was a good idea, when they should have been using those buffs to make Fighters even stronger.Plus, I don't know about you, but I see very few battles where casters have the opportunity to layer buffs on themselves anyways, since there's this thing called "action economy" (you can bring up Divine Metamagic here, but that's not a core option, and everyone says CoDzilla is a core issue).People talk about how powerful the Druid's animal forms are, but completely skim over their terrible armor class when they do this- Wild armor is expensive, as are Monk's Belts, Bracers, and all the other things that need to shore that up.What does the Druid have natively to increase AC?  Barkskin?So here's what this boils down to- hypothetical armchair analysis, permissive DM's, and a failure to analyze how to most efficiently use resources.  Casting spells to turn a caster into a melee combatant is ridiculous (I mean, who casts Tenser's Transformation?) in most circumstances.Yes, a Half-Orc Cleric can cast Bull's Strength on themselves to outperform a Fighter.  Congratulations, penguin, you traded your wings for flippers.</blockquote>