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<blockquote data-quote="jaelis" data-source="post: 7096553" data-attributes="member: 60210"><p>So with a bit more time, it is maybe interesting to mention a few cases where things are a bit confusing. But again, these are uncommon and rarely come up:</p><p></p><p>- Sometimes monsters have random ad hoc bonuses or penalties. For instance, a chain devil has +8 to hit with it's chains. It should have a prof bonus of +3 and a Str bonus of +4 for +7. If you have a chain devil attack with a different weapon for some reason, you'll have to decide whether to apply that ad hoc bonus. (In this case, I'd say the bonus only works with the chains.)</p><p></p><p>- Several monsters use Dex rather than Str for their normal attacks. A few seem to use other stats (ie, a ghost seems to use Cha). If such a creature attacks with a non-standard weapon of some kind, you'll have to decide what stat to use. I would play that this is determined by the weapon. So if a ghost picks up a longsword and attacks with it, they would use Str at my table.</p><p></p><p>- The ray of enfeeblement spell requires you to determine whether a creature's attacks use Strength or not. Occasionally that is hard to determine (ie, the giant eagle). At my table ray of enfeeblement works against all weapon attacks for simplicity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jaelis, post: 7096553, member: 60210"] So with a bit more time, it is maybe interesting to mention a few cases where things are a bit confusing. But again, these are uncommon and rarely come up: - Sometimes monsters have random ad hoc bonuses or penalties. For instance, a chain devil has +8 to hit with it's chains. It should have a prof bonus of +3 and a Str bonus of +4 for +7. If you have a chain devil attack with a different weapon for some reason, you'll have to decide whether to apply that ad hoc bonus. (In this case, I'd say the bonus only works with the chains.) - Several monsters use Dex rather than Str for their normal attacks. A few seem to use other stats (ie, a ghost seems to use Cha). If such a creature attacks with a non-standard weapon of some kind, you'll have to decide what stat to use. I would play that this is determined by the weapon. So if a ghost picks up a longsword and attacks with it, they would use Str at my table. - The ray of enfeeblement spell requires you to determine whether a creature's attacks use Strength or not. Occasionally that is hard to determine (ie, the giant eagle). At my table ray of enfeeblement works against all weapon attacks for simplicity. [/QUOTE]
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