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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 6963026" data-attributes="member: 284">And it's all about your fun.&nbsp; No one should be better than you, and since you deliberately play sub-par characters, other people should be forced to as well?&nbsp; &nbsp; Can't say I have much sympathy for your position.&nbsp; You seem to think other people are making optimized characters in order to better than your character.&nbsp;&nbsp; It's not about you.&nbsp;&nbsp; Like I said, I like to play heroes, not gimps.&nbsp; (Sometimes conflicted anti-heroes, sometimes funny/silly heroes, but still generally heroic.)&nbsp;&nbsp; And living heroes are generally more fun to play than the heroic gimp who got killed by the goblins in their second combat encounter because they couldn't hit anything or do any damage.&nbsp; Gimp characters get other characters killed,&nbsp; optimized characters have a chance at turning the tide when things go south.&nbsp; (Although if the player is an idiot it doesn't really matter how their character is built.&nbsp; Poor playing ability trumps optimized character building.)But I try not to tell other people how they should make their characters or how to play the game unless they ask me (or they are doing something really egregious, usually because they are new to the game).&nbsp; Telling people how they should play the game tends to reduce the fun for everyone at the table.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 6963026, member: 284"] And it's all about your fun. No one should be better than you, and since you deliberately play sub-par characters, other people should be forced to as well? Can't say I have much sympathy for your position. You seem to think other people are making optimized characters in order to better than your character. It's not about you. Like I said, I like to play heroes, not gimps. (Sometimes conflicted anti-heroes, sometimes funny/silly heroes, but still generally heroic.) And living heroes are generally more fun to play than the heroic gimp who got killed by the goblins in their second combat encounter because they couldn't hit anything or do any damage. Gimp characters get other characters killed, optimized characters have a chance at turning the tide when things go south. (Although if the player is an idiot it doesn't really matter how their character is built. Poor playing ability trumps optimized character building.) But I try not to tell other people how they should make their characters or how to play the game unless they ask me (or they are doing something really egregious, usually because they are new to the game). Telling people how they should play the game tends to reduce the fun for everyone at the table. [/QUOTE]

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