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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 6967078" data-attributes="member: 6802951">The issue is when you have the usual mix of players. If there are people who are going to object to another player having a DPR 0.65 below optimal in a fairly balanced system, how do you think they will react when someone plays an interesting concept that the system itself has designed to be suboptimal.Its not a question of it not being obvious that it would be a suboptimal combination. Its the risk of someone throwing a wobbly when another player accepts that their character is going to be less optimal as the price for playing the more interesting combination and does so anyway.Unless the entire table is made up of min/maxers, disallowing certain race/class combinations is not going to be the same in practice as making them less optimal. Saying &quot;In this system Dwarves can't be wizards.&quot; is not the same as saying &quot;There aren't many Dwarven Wizards so we're going to punish you if you want to play one.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 6967078, member: 6802951"] The issue is when you have the usual mix of players. If there are people who are going to object to another player having a DPR 0.65 below optimal in a fairly balanced system, how do you think they will react when someone plays an interesting concept that the system itself has designed to be suboptimal. Its not a question of it not being obvious that it would be a suboptimal combination. Its the risk of someone throwing a wobbly when another player accepts that their character is going to be less optimal as the price for playing the more interesting combination and does so anyway. Unless the entire table is made up of min/maxers, disallowing certain race/class combinations is not going to be the same in practice as making them less optimal. Saying "In this system Dwarves can't be wizards." is not the same as saying "There aren't many Dwarven Wizards so we're going to punish you if you want to play one." [/QUOTE]

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