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<blockquote data-quote="steenan" data-source="post: 6971503" data-attributes="member: 23240">For many, it isn't. A lot of people intentionally build powerful characters and get their fun from it (&quot;powergame&quot;), while staying within the rules. For me, it has always been the difference between &quot;theoretical optimization&quot; (as in: see how much I can get with literal reading of RaW) and powergaming in practice.It is only a problem when the group uses a ruleset that doesn't fit their style. Using a system that rewards build optimization and then not optimizing and complaining that someone optimizes is like using screwdrivers to drive nails and get offended when someone uses it to drive a screw instead. If the group is not interested in playing the optimization game, there's a lot of systems that cater to this.My point is exactly that such system does not exist.Each game rewards some behaviors, just because of how the rules are build. Each is based on some assumptions and the only difference is if they are hidden or clearly communicated. A lot of problems at game tables come from assuming that games are style neutral just because they are popular and then getting frustrated when they are not. I think it's the second biggest source of issues after miscommunication within the group.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steenan, post: 6971503, member: 23240"] For many, it isn't. A lot of people intentionally build powerful characters and get their fun from it ("powergame"), while staying within the rules. For me, it has always been the difference between "theoretical optimization" (as in: see how much I can get with literal reading of RaW) and powergaming in practice. It is only a problem when the group uses a ruleset that doesn't fit their style. Using a system that rewards build optimization and then not optimizing and complaining that someone optimizes is like using screwdrivers to drive nails and get offended when someone uses it to drive a screw instead. If the group is not interested in playing the optimization game, there's a lot of systems that cater to this. My point is exactly that such system does not exist. Each game rewards some behaviors, just because of how the rules are build. Each is based on some assumptions and the only difference is if they are hidden or clearly communicated. A lot of problems at game tables come from assuming that games are style neutral just because they are popular and then getting frustrated when they are not. I think it's the second biggest source of issues after miscommunication within the group. [/QUOTE]

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