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<blockquote data-quote="woodelf" data-source="post: 1763924" data-attributes="member: 10201">Too much sugar always ruins my appetite. Half a can of soda, or one of those &quot;funsize&quot; candybars is about my limit. But i just don't have much of a sweettooth. Now, salty/greasy snacks...i once ate an entire giant bag of cheetos in about an hour. That was a mistake.&nbsp; Oh, wait, sugar was a metaphor.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;&nbsp;Seriously, yes and no. That's actually exactly what i'm doing, but it's not just the accumulation of multiple, sometimes-conflicting rules. It's also the flavor of those rules. D&amp;D3E drives me batty, and 3.5E makes it worse. Even using just the PH, i'd find it frustrating (i'd never run it, and got totally burned out on it when i was a player). But i used to love D&amp;D, and want to run a D&amp;D game, damnit!&nbsp; My solution? Arcana Unearthed + Book of Drawbacks and Distinctions (+ Artificer's Handbook, if anybody starts making magic items). I'm currently torn on whether to include Net Book of Feats (or a subset thereof) and/or Dynasties &amp; Demagogues--i think they're both really great additions, but part of me just wants to stick to the bare minimum (i consider flaws/edges part of that &quot;bare minimum&quot; in any system as crunchy as D20 System).&nbsp;&nbsp;Also, it sounds like in your particular case maybe you'd just be happier with a less-crunchy system, one where, except for campaign world, none of those goals you raise necessitate (or even leave room for) new books/rules.&nbsp; Something where you just invent the character you want to play, adjudicate the situations as makes sense, etc., so there is no impetus to be searching for &quot;the perfect widget&quot;.&nbsp; Um, something like... Unisystem Light, BESM (maybe even BESM D20), EABA. Note that these are all only slightly less crunchy than D&amp;D3.5E, but noticably more flexible.&nbsp; Or maybe you should look at The Burning Wheel--probably overall about the same crunch level as D&amp;D3.5E, but in a slightly more-streamlined package, and with a bit more flexibility.&nbsp; I'm assuming you like crunch, or wouldn't be playing D20 System at all. If not, then you'd probably be really happy with Story Engine, Hero Quest (nee Hero Wars), Feng Shui (sure, you could run epic fantasy with it), or something along those lines.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="woodelf, post: 1763924, member: 10201"] Too much sugar always ruins my appetite. Half a can of soda, or one of those "funsize" candybars is about my limit. But i just don't have much of a sweettooth. Now, salty/greasy snacks...i once ate an entire giant bag of cheetos in about an hour. [i]That[/i] was a mistake. Oh, wait, sugar was a metaphor. ;) Seriously, yes and no. That's actually exactly what i'm doing, but it's not just the accumulation of multiple, sometimes-conflicting rules. It's also the flavor of those rules. D&D3E drives me batty, and 3.5E makes it worse. Even using just the PH, i'd find it frustrating (i'd never run it, and got totally burned out on it when i was a player). But i used to love D&D, and want to run a D&D game, damnit! My solution? Arcana Unearthed + Book of Drawbacks and Distinctions (+ Artificer's Handbook, if anybody starts making magic items). I'm currently torn on whether to include Net Book of Feats (or a subset thereof) and/or Dynasties & Demagogues--i think they're both really great additions, but part of me just wants to stick to the bare minimum (i consider flaws/edges part of that "bare minimum" in any system as crunchy as D20 System). Also, it sounds like in your particular case maybe you'd just be happier with a less-crunchy system, one where, except for campaign world, none of those goals you raise necessitate (or even leave room for) new books/rules. Something where you just invent the character you want to play, adjudicate the situations as makes sense, etc., so there is no impetus to be searching for "the perfect widget". Um, something like... Unisystem Light, BESM (maybe even BESM D20), EABA. Note that these are all only slightly less crunchy than D&D3.5E, but noticably more flexible. Or maybe you should look at The Burning Wheel--probably overall about the same crunch level as D&D3.5E, but in a slightly more-streamlined package, and with a bit more flexibility. I'm assuming you like crunch, or wouldn't be playing D20 System at all. If not, then you'd probably be [i]really[/i] happy with Story Engine, Hero Quest (nee Hero Wars), Feng Shui (sure, you could run epic fantasy with it), or something along those lines. [/QUOTE]

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