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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1122987" data-attributes="member: 5777">not sure where fighter 10 vs wiz 10 came from, this is a discussion about multiclassing spellcasters and ways to fix them.wiz 10 vs cr10 critter with sr 20, wiz takes two feats, 14 + d20 vs 20, not too bad, 25% of spells cast at this creature simply fail to work (generally speaking). Ouch, but liveable.wiz5/cleric5 +2 feats = 50% chance of spells simply not having an effect. Now that is an ouch and 'NOT' liveable. Especially as after that SR they will probably get another save.The multiclass guy will have spells that are much easier to resist, much easier to save against (especially if you start empowering 1st level spells for some reason), and their big guns went out of style 4 levels ago.Now, with the above he'll be a wiz5/cleric5 who casts as wiz6/cleric6, he probably gains 2 or 3 more slots max, 1 more point in level based parts, and thats about it. Which means that he is 'still' under par, but at least there is some sign of his effort making a difference. He's still nearly useless in most situations other players will want him to do things for, but with this modification he is just a tad better. Getting close to even being a viable character in and out of combat as compared to his fellows. He should never have as tough of spells as the full caster, and he wont even come close, but at least at higher levels he'll have something to show for what he has done. Instead of it doing nearly nothing for him.</blockquote>

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