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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2900610" data-attributes="member: 19675">Agback, I made an error in the math when I doubled each monk's HP, I should have also added one to each one's BAB, because that is what happens when a monk reaches 2nd level.  This would have affected their expected damage output.So in a pure melee fight:2nd level Dex Monk AB +3, AC 13, d6+2, 18 hp (average damage output: 2.48 hp per round) fighting 1 trog with longspears, each AB +1, AC 15, d8, 13 hp.  Because of the Monk's AC, the Trog expects to do 1.58/round.  It will take the Trog 11.39 rounds to drop the monk...but he only has a little over 5 rounds to live.2nd level Str Monk AB +4, AC 12, d6+3, 18 hp (average damage output: 3.25 hp per round) fighting 1 trog with longspears, each AB +1, AC 15, d8, 13 hp.  Because of the Monk's AC, the Trog expects to do 1.58/round.  It will take the Trog 10.29 rounds to drop the monk...but he only has 4 rounds to live.Advantage, Str Monk.2nd level Dex Monk AB +3, AC 13, d6+2, 18 hp (average damage output: 2.48 hp per round) fighting 2 trogs with longspears, each AB +1, AC 15, d8, 13 hp.  Because of the Monk's AC, each Trog expects to do 1.58/round, for a total of 3.16/rd.  By round 5, the Monk has dealt out 12.4 HP of damage, and the Trogs have dealt out 15.8 hp of damage. In round 6, one trog will drop, as will the monk (assuming simultaneous initiative).  The monk will have done 14.88 points of damage.2nd level Str Monk AB +4, AC 12, d6+3, 18 hp (average damage output: 3.25 hp per round) fighting 2 trogs with longspears, each AB +1, AC 15, d8, 13 hp.  Because of the Monk's AC, each Trog expects to do 1.75HP/round, for a total of 3.5/rd.  In round 4, the Str Monk drops a trog (at 13hp exactly) and has taken 14 points himself.  3 rounds later, though, the remaining Trog drops the monk, after taking 9.75 damage himself.  (That's a whopping 22.75 damage delivered by the Str Monk.)Advantage Str Monk, possibly posthumously.2nd level Dex Monk AB +3, AC 13, d6+2, 18 hp (average damage output: 2.48 hp per round) fighting 3 trogs with longspears, each AB +1, AC 15, d8, 13 hp.  Because of the Monk's AC, each Trog expects to do 1.58/round, for a total of 4.74/rd.  In the 4 rounds it takes them to drop him, he deals out 9.92 points of damage.2nd level Str Monk AB +4, AC 12, d6+3, 18 hp (average damage output: 3.25 hp per round) fighting 3 trogs with longspears, each AB +1, AC 15, d8, 13 hp.  Because of the Monk's AC, each Trog expects to do 1.75HP/round, for a total of 5.25/rd.  In the 3 rounds it takes the trogs to drop him, he deals out 9.75 points of damage.Pyrrhic victory, Dex monk- he does more damage and lasts longer before succumbing to the assembled Trogs.  At higher levels of being outnumbered, neither monk survives more than 3 rounds.</blockquote>

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