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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5269103" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>There's a lot of hatred for corporate America out there, and I can see how you might be expecting to see that. No, I don't hate the big corporations that gave me a good living for 12 years, but I am keenly aware of the rediculousness of corporate speak. That's what WotC is engaging in when they say those things the OP quoted. They're just trying to make their next set of products sound acceptable to everyone. And, if that means being disengenuous, and claiming that the product is /exactly/ what old-school gamers who don't like 4e, 4e fans, and newbies all want, then that's what they'll do. The fact that it's impossible that a product could apeal to the union of those disparate sets notwithstanding.</p><p></p><p>You don't have to hate marketeers to realize that you have to take what they saw with a very large grain of salt. </p><p></p><p>It's the nature of selling that you'll have some satisfied customers and some dissatisfied customers. While it's desireable to maximize the former, the latter are still revenue - at worst, one-time revenue. If you're /not/ buying essentials, the fact that you don't feel slighted doesn't add anything to WotC's bottom line when they're trying to justify their continued existance to Hasbro for another quarter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5269103, member: 996"] There's a lot of hatred for corporate America out there, and I can see how you might be expecting to see that. No, I don't hate the big corporations that gave me a good living for 12 years, but I am keenly aware of the rediculousness of corporate speak. That's what WotC is engaging in when they say those things the OP quoted. They're just trying to make their next set of products sound acceptable to everyone. And, if that means being disengenuous, and claiming that the product is /exactly/ what old-school gamers who don't like 4e, 4e fans, and newbies all want, then that's what they'll do. The fact that it's impossible that a product could apeal to the union of those disparate sets notwithstanding. You don't have to hate marketeers to realize that you have to take what they saw with a very large grain of salt. It's the nature of selling that you'll have some satisfied customers and some dissatisfied customers. While it's desireable to maximize the former, the latter are still revenue - at worst, one-time revenue. If you're /not/ buying essentials, the fact that you don't feel slighted doesn't add anything to WotC's bottom line when they're trying to justify their continued existance to Hasbro for another quarter. [/QUOTE]
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