A swarm of What?

[apesamongus]

Are there any (semi-)official rules for how to derive stats for a swarm from the stats of the base creature?

 

[Simplicity]

I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no.
Typically, the things you're swarming don't have stats (what's the stats of a mosquito or a normal wasp?).

By the time you get up to things that have stands, you start having "mobs"... I remember less about the rules for mobs, however. There may be something there.

 

[apesamongus]

I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no.
Typically, the things you're swarming don't have stats (what's the stats of a mosquito or a normal wasp?).

By the time you get up to things that have stands, you start having "mobs"... I remember less about the rules for mobs, however. There may be something there.

Is there an official "mob" anywhere?
And, swarms can be made up of creatures of up to tiny in size, so there are a lot of swarmable creatures that have stats.

 

[Simplicity]

There was somewhere before... I think it just got put in the DMG2, but I just got my hands on that today so I can't verify that yet.

 

[Aust Diamondew]

Is there an official "mob" anywhere?
And, swarms can be made up of creatures of up to tiny in size, so there are a lot of swarmable creatures that have stats.

A rabbit swarm would be fun.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Is there an official "mob" anywhere?

The brand-spanking-new DMG2.

 

[Voadam]

Green Ronin's Advanced Bestiary supposedly has a swarm template.

 

[Ballard_Alvar]

A rabbit swarm would be fun.

I played once in a campaign code named "Dusin's Wild Daemonic Beach-Party" where we combated a few swarms of feindish squirls. nuff said. I don't know where he pulled the templet from.

 

[Simplicity]

The mob template in the DMG2 does show how to convert 30 medium or 12 large creatures into a Gargantaun mob "creature". Very cool.

 

[apesamongus]

The brand-spanking-new DMG2.

Wow, that might actually mean I use more stuff from DMG2 than DMG1.