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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ginnel" data-source="post: 4304843" data-attributes="member: 66058">I really can't believe what people are saying on the first page "I'd be pissed at a player for using a low skill and failing I'd rather he just sat quiet and did nothing"EDIT rewritten more politelyD&D is a group experience having someone sit on the sidelines during a 30min diplomacy encounter stinks, they should either be observing the room looking at ancient weapons or religious symbols to try and get a handle on the guy they're talking to, they should perform a slight of hand to impress the guys wife, they should be out and about outside the hall checking out if anyone is listening in, they should be using their heal checks to checkout if what the Sergeant told them about the wounds sounded right. Its a big no-no in my book to not give the players a chance to do things in any encounter and if you have players cajouling or bullying them into not doing things sort them out, but there is the other side if someone insists on trying to do everything say I'm sorry but your character is still currently doing this and don't let them hog the spotlight. One of the major things I liked about 4e combat it lets all combatents contribute, the same should go for skill challenges, if the players can't think of anything to do, help them out give them a suggestion either during the encounter or after it, ask them to make a roll every now and then for them to pick up on a significant detail, and if you can't think of anything try asking on the boards for suggestions. Also don't forget character backgrounds a player was a fisherman and its an appropriate skill for the current challenge, that to me means knowledge check with int bonus and quite possibly 5 for trained or maybe a bit lower.It would not anger me if a player in a game they are playing decided to play their character and do an action which was in character but had a low chance of success, we would just enact the frustration, if any the other characters had had in the game and the game would be enchanced for it (in fact characters might blame it on something else entirely slippy climbing conditions, an unreasonable duke etc). If people can't handle their out of character frustration for an in game failure, I'd have a word with them and if they continued they wouldn't be the kind of person I'd have in my game.</blockquote>

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