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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8935731" data-attributes="member: 82106">It is a mystery to me what your arguing against that I have said then... I simply expounded on the nature of the relationship that fiction and game have in an RPG, and you seem to be 100% agreeing with and reinforcing everything I have said. You seem to be trying at some points to draw a contrast between how the OP describes fiction and some colloquial description. Yes, it is true that when we talk about RPGs we use some shorthand where 'fiction', and sometimes more exactly 'fictional position' (which is specific to a GIVEN SITUATION in the fiction) to stand in for some laborious phraseology like &quot;the type of interactive fiction generating dialog peculiar to RPGs.&quot; There's no need to say &quot;ongoing fictional position&quot; in most cases either, as we are generally discussing how the situation at the table evolves during the interactions, which are of course 'ongoing'. Maybe it would be useful in some case where I wanted to digress and talk about some previous fictional position and its relationship to the current ongoing one, etc. Otherwise I am vastly likely to elide qualifiers like 'ongoing', as they should be understood well enough. The upshot is, I'm not sure exactly what it is that you want to debate. There seems to be SOMETHING, but I'm stumped as to what it is!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8935731, member: 82106"] It is a mystery to me what your arguing against that I have said then... I simply expounded on the nature of the relationship that fiction and game have in an RPG, and you seem to be 100% agreeing with and reinforcing everything I have said. You seem to be trying at some points to draw a contrast between how the OP describes fiction and some colloquial description. Yes, it is true that when we talk about RPGs we use some shorthand where 'fiction', and sometimes more exactly 'fictional position' (which is specific to a GIVEN SITUATION in the fiction) to stand in for some laborious phraseology like "the type of interactive fiction generating dialog peculiar to RPGs." There's no need to say "ongoing fictional position" in most cases either, as we are generally discussing how the situation at the table evolves during the interactions, which are of course 'ongoing'. Maybe it would be useful in some case where I wanted to digress and talk about some previous fictional position and its relationship to the current ongoing one, etc. Otherwise I am vastly likely to elide qualifiers like 'ongoing', as they should be understood well enough. The upshot is, I'm not sure exactly what it is that you want to debate. There seems to be SOMETHING, but I'm stumped as to what it is! [/QUOTE]

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