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<blockquote data-quote="Kristivas" data-source="post: 3262712" data-attributes="member: 34179"><p>I'm not sure I could apply this logically.</p><p></p><p>Trying to justify the multitude of XP charts based on who learned what and how they applied it just doesn't make sense, imo. If you were to get that in-depth, wouldn't higher int or wis characters gain more experience because they can apply knowledge better? Would the low-int, high-strength fighter gain an xp penalty?</p><p></p><p>I like to think of experience as a meter, or glass. Every kill (or act that your DM awards experience for) fills that meter or pours some more liquid into the glass to get it closer to the top. If the 4 party members kill a hill giant, the same amount of juice gets poured into each of their cups. They all apply the 'juice' in their own way (fighter gets better at hitting, wizard gets better at casting, ect). Changing the size of the glass each guy needs to get to the top really makes no sense to me.</p><p></p><p>In my former gaming store where I used to live, my friends and I would often have discussions on these very issues with the guy that ran the place. He was around 40, so he was pretty against 3e and 3.5e and beyond. I think even "Skills and Powers" from AD&D 2e made him offended.</p><p></p><p>"You kids and your feats! In my day, they were called THIEVES! Clerics couldn't trade out spells for heals, they had to pray for them at dawn! The paladin and ranger were better than the fighter! Where's my geritol!?"</p><p></p><p>It wasn't pretty <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kristivas, post: 3262712, member: 34179"] I'm not sure I could apply this logically. Trying to justify the multitude of XP charts based on who learned what and how they applied it just doesn't make sense, imo. If you were to get that in-depth, wouldn't higher int or wis characters gain more experience because they can apply knowledge better? Would the low-int, high-strength fighter gain an xp penalty? I like to think of experience as a meter, or glass. Every kill (or act that your DM awards experience for) fills that meter or pours some more liquid into the glass to get it closer to the top. If the 4 party members kill a hill giant, the same amount of juice gets poured into each of their cups. They all apply the 'juice' in their own way (fighter gets better at hitting, wizard gets better at casting, ect). Changing the size of the glass each guy needs to get to the top really makes no sense to me. In my former gaming store where I used to live, my friends and I would often have discussions on these very issues with the guy that ran the place. He was around 40, so he was pretty against 3e and 3.5e and beyond. I think even "Skills and Powers" from AD&D 2e made him offended. "You kids and your feats! In my day, they were called THIEVES! Clerics couldn't trade out spells for heals, they had to pray for them at dawn! The paladin and ranger were better than the fighter! Where's my geritol!?" It wasn't pretty :( [/QUOTE]
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