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Message: <blockquote data-quote="molonel" data-source="post: 3265459" data-attributes="member: 10412">No, he couldn't.+1 to-hit with a bow, and no sneaking ability unless he's in a party full of elves or alone. And no tracking. Yeah, pardon me if I'm underwhelmed.Compare that to an elven ranger in 3.5 with 6 skill points that he can distribute any way he likes, among Survival, Hide, Move Silently, Spot, Listen or anything else he wants.There's just no contest, man.I don't know quite what you mean by that. The elven ranger is a pretty basic fantasy character. I'm not getting too wild or crazy by asking that the game allow me to play one without bending heaven and earth to do so.The fact that an elven ranger is considered "non-standard" demonstrates my point well enough.I don't see D&D as a hostile relationship between players and the DM. But the inability of 1st Edition to model some of these things without the DM having to step down from heaven and change the rules is not a strength, no matter how you slice it. I've heard oh-so-much about the 3rd Edition half-dragon, half-werewolf, half-somethingorother character with 1 level in 10 different classes and prestige classes, but we're not talking about that.We're talking about an elven. Ranger. With a bow. Who can sneak. And track.We're not talking about some sort of player-inspired conspiracy against the DM. We're talking about the rules themselves.</blockquote>