Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="molonel" data-source="post: 3265748" data-attributes="member: 10412">No mathematical bonus? They didn't grant you ANY kind of bonus in any way, shape or form. They had no definition, no parameters and you ROLLED THEM RANDOMLY. An elven fighter had as much chance of being a pastry chef as he did a hunter.In 3rd Edition D&D, I can play an elven ranger. He gets Track at 1st level. I know that when he has 5 ranks in Survival, he will automatically know where true north is, always. At 2nd level, he can gain a feat that will allow him to fire 1 more arrow per round or go the Two-Weapon Fighting route.I also know that he can forage for food for himself, protect himself against extremes in the weather, and avoid natural snares such as quicksand.He will have greater physical endurance for traveling long distances at 3rd level, and gain an animal companion at 4th level (probably a hawk or a wolf, just to be cool). At 8th level, he will become a faster tracker. And on and on.All of that is not cheesy powergaming, either. It's tangible abilities I will gain. I don't have to negotiate with the DM. I don't have to burn game time making my case that an elf should be able to do that.</blockquote>