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<blockquote data-quote="GreatLemur" data-source="post: 3415425" data-attributes="member: 28553">On the face of it, I don't really dig the idea of using a spell for turning, because it always struck me as weird that Clerics cast spells anyway, and that would put divine feats in a weird place. (Do they all become metamagic feats that only effect one spell?&nbsp; Or should they, too, become spells in their own right?)However, I've got to say that it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the current situation: Why would turn attempts and spells per day be completely separate resources?&nbsp; Isn't all that power coming from the same source, and being channeled through the same person?&nbsp; Where's the sense in running out of one kind of miracle, and not another?&nbsp; (Similarly, I fervently believe that Clerics should be spontaneous casters, but that's getting way off-topic.)Timing that for maximum effect sounds a little difficult, but it does present a completely awesome image.&nbsp; I like the idea of a party struggling against a horde of undead, the Cleric urging them to spread their damage around, and waiting until the last moment to make the whole lot of 'em explode at once.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreatLemur, post: 3415425, member: 28553"] On the face of it, I don't really dig the idea of using a spell for turning, because it always struck me as weird that Clerics cast spells anyway, and that would put divine feats in a weird place. (Do they all become metamagic feats that only effect one spell? Or should they, too, become spells in their own right?) However, I've got to say that it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the current situation: Why [i]would[/i] turn attempts and spells per day be completely separate resources? Isn't all that power coming from the same source, and being channeled through the same person? Where's the sense in running out of one kind of miracle, and not another? (Similarly, I fervently believe that Clerics should be spontaneous casters, but that's getting way off-topic.) Timing that for maximum effect sounds a little difficult, but it does present a completely awesome image. I like the idea of a party struggling against a horde of undead, the Cleric urging them to spread their damage around, and waiting until the last moment to make the whole lot of 'em explode at once. [/QUOTE]

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