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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3928161" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>No, but there was a whole host of things for earlier editions that had no other source than someone's idea. Remember that many of D&D's most iconic elements have no prior history. Beholders for example. Think about it for a second. One of the most powerful, most iconic monsters for any edition of D&D is a floating eyeball that shoots lasers. </p><p></p><p>Imagine, for a second, if beholders were suddenly being brought up now. Do you think they would have half the traction that they have? Or would they be panned as ridiculously stupid critters that are pretty much unusable? I don't know. But, I do think that people tend to forget how much of D&D has no basis in what came before and was created pretty much whole cloth for D&D.</p><p></p><p>While the idea of dark elves certainly has floated around, Drow are NOT that. S&M lesbian men haters isn't exactly Brother's Grimm. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Githyanki? Borrowed from a Martin SF novel and the backstory ripped from a Larry Niven SF story. </p><p></p><p>Sure, artifacts had lots of flavour. But, they were all Greyhawk flavour and if you didn't play Greyhawk, this got ignored. And, because they were artifacts, you couldn't exactly toss them into your campaign whenever you liked.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3928161, member: 22779"] No, but there was a whole host of things for earlier editions that had no other source than someone's idea. Remember that many of D&D's most iconic elements have no prior history. Beholders for example. Think about it for a second. One of the most powerful, most iconic monsters for any edition of D&D is a floating eyeball that shoots lasers. Imagine, for a second, if beholders were suddenly being brought up now. Do you think they would have half the traction that they have? Or would they be panned as ridiculously stupid critters that are pretty much unusable? I don't know. But, I do think that people tend to forget how much of D&D has no basis in what came before and was created pretty much whole cloth for D&D. While the idea of dark elves certainly has floated around, Drow are NOT that. S&M lesbian men haters isn't exactly Brother's Grimm. :) Githyanki? Borrowed from a Martin SF novel and the backstory ripped from a Larry Niven SF story. Sure, artifacts had lots of flavour. But, they were all Greyhawk flavour and if you didn't play Greyhawk, this got ignored. And, because they were artifacts, you couldn't exactly toss them into your campaign whenever you liked. [/QUOTE]
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