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<blockquote data-quote="Aberzanzorax" data-source="post: 5953132" data-attributes="member: 64209">Soutionwise, here's the best I can come up with at the moment (using 3e rules as the base to houserule since I'm most familiar with em).&nbsp;Using base attack bonus (so fighters, being the best fighters, have the best combat intuition), one rolls a check similar to a caster level check.&nbsp;If a character's roll of 1d20+BAB exceeds the monster's cr (or the encounter level for multiple monsters), the character knows the monster's relative power. If a player fails, a monster can pretend to be more wimpy or powerful up to the degree of failure. (So if a fighter failed a cr 10 monster by 5, it could pretend to be 15 or 5...but couldn't pretend to be cr 4 or 16).&nbsp;If a character has a relevant knowledge skill for that type of monster, they can substitute the skill for bab (making smart wizards more likely to know about their focuses of knowledge, but fighters more likely to have more generalist instinct...and knowldege would still provide other elements like &quot;immune to fire&quot; and whatnot).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aberzanzorax, post: 5953132, member: 64209"] Soutionwise, here's the best I can come up with at the moment (using 3e rules as the base to houserule since I'm most familiar with em). Using base attack bonus (so fighters, being the best fighters, have the best combat intuition), one rolls a check similar to a caster level check. If a character's roll of 1d20+BAB exceeds the monster's cr (or the encounter level for multiple monsters), the character knows the monster's relative power. If a player fails, a monster can pretend to be more wimpy or powerful up to the degree of failure. (So if a fighter failed a cr 10 monster by 5, it could pretend to be 15 or 5...but couldn't pretend to be cr 4 or 16). If a character has a relevant knowledge skill for that type of monster, they can substitute the skill for bab (making smart wizards more likely to know about their focuses of knowledge, but fighters more likely to have more generalist instinct...and knowldege would still provide other elements like "immune to fire" and whatnot). [/QUOTE]

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