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<blockquote data-quote="Quartz" data-source="post: 7790756" data-attributes="member: 40552"><p>You know, I looked at your spreadsheet and it doesn't say what you think it says. TLDR you've forgotten about the attack on the Bonus Action.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]113252[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I added a column for the unsurged damage (column X) and assumed 8 combats of 8 rounds apiece and deleted low levels. I increased the number of attacks (column N) by one to account for the bonus attack. The unsurged Ranger with Hunter's Mark out-damages the Battlemaster by nearly a thousand points at 11th level. Even with Action Surge it's 750 points until 20th level (BTW you got the number of surges wrong for the 20th level fighter: it should be 6, not two) and even then the Ranger still wins. And only at 20th level does the Champion - which is not the subject of this thread - come close to the ranger, and requires Action Surge to exceed.</p><p></p><p>I have not included Volley or Whirlwind attack because those would be highly variable. Note that these abilities are usable 1 / round.</p><p></p><p>I then added in the Paladin:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]113254[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I've omitted surge damage because calculating smites is difficult.</p><p></p><p>You'll note that the 11th level Paladin outdamages the 11th level BM Fighter by 300 points and it's only at 20th level that the BM out-damages the Paladin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quartz, post: 7790756, member: 40552"] You know, I looked at your spreadsheet and it doesn't say what you think it says. TLDR you've forgotten about the attack on the Bonus Action. [ATTACH type="full"]113252[/ATTACH] I added a column for the unsurged damage (column X) and assumed 8 combats of 8 rounds apiece and deleted low levels. I increased the number of attacks (column N) by one to account for the bonus attack. The unsurged Ranger with Hunter's Mark out-damages the Battlemaster by nearly a thousand points at 11th level. Even with Action Surge it's 750 points until 20th level (BTW you got the number of surges wrong for the 20th level fighter: it should be 6, not two) and even then the Ranger still wins. And only at 20th level does the Champion - which is not the subject of this thread - come close to the ranger, and requires Action Surge to exceed. I have not included Volley or Whirlwind attack because those would be highly variable. Note that these abilities are usable 1 / round. I then added in the Paladin: [ATTACH type="full"]113254[/ATTACH] I've omitted surge damage because calculating smites is difficult. You'll note that the 11th level Paladin outdamages the 11th level BM Fighter by 300 points and it's only at 20th level that the BM out-damages the Paladin. [/QUOTE]
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